--- Victoria Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andy Driscoll writes:
> 
> "Rental units are a gold mine for landlords, once
cash flow out strips 
> the initial investment, and that is always within
six months of 
> purchase, if not immediately."
> 
> Vicky Heller comments:
> 
> Brookfield Development, The Radisson Hotel needed a
$20 million,
> Riverside Plaza is so broke ... that it can't pay
Minneapolis the land
> rent it owes, Seven Corners Apartments needed $20
million, Stone 
> Arch without $30 million, Target Stores couldn't
afford to build its
> own store without $63+ million, Ratner and Wolfenson
stuck 
> Minneapolis with the Target Center before they went
bellyup.  The
> new owner is so  broke, he doesn't pay any property
taxes at all, etc.

Strange, my little duplex is doing pretty well.
Granted, I'm not covering the mortgage yet, but I live
in one of the units. My costs minus my rent is
significantly less than I'd be paying to rent a
similar unit.

All this and I'm providing a 2 bedroom apartment at an
affordable housing rate of $650/month.

I'm happy to learn that I am apparently a better
business person than those places that Vicky listed.
Of course, it is true that I'm paying homesteaded
property taxes. I'm not sure how it would look if I
was paying a commercial rate.

I've been telling everyone I know that rents and can
come up with some cash that they ought to do the same
thing - buy a duplex and rent half of it. It's been
great so far.

What this suggests to me is that the poster who
discussed getting small landlords to the table on the
affordable housing issue may be seriously onto
something. Even if the city doesn't want to start
writing me checks, it'd be nice if they stopped giving
my tax money to my competitors.

Hmm... If only large businesses get the city's ear,
maybe those of us who are small should combine to form
a larger organization.

(I'm not personally needing it as my tennants are
great and I'm doing OK financially, but if it would
get the city to stop giving money to big developers,
I'd be happy.)

On a different topic,

I went to the como zoo and conservatory this weekend.
I feel bad for the animals in such small habitats, but
I was really struck by the fact that it was so clean
and appeared well cared for and maintained.

A punk friend of mine who went with and has a
generally "don't give a shit about anything" attitude
said that he didn't feel right smoking there because
it was so nice and actually refrained from smoking
until he was at the little smokers outpost outside the
conservatory. The other members of the group agreed,
but it wasn't as suprising coming from them.

All four of the people I went to the zoo with
commented that it sucked that Minneapolis couldn't
have a place like this because it would be run down,
covered in graffiti and have trash and "40s" all over
the place.

I found that rather depressing. I also found it
depressing that I couldn't find a compelling argument
to say that they were wrong.

It also struck me that many things there had a "paid
for by such and such corporation" and other private
funding. I know about Norm's mess funding companies
downtown, but it appears that in some parts of St.
Paul, private businesses give money to the city rather
than taking it from them. What's up with that?

Thoughts?

(Oh, also, on the way there, I was introduced to a
cheese/sandwich shop called Nelson's. Holy cow! Is
there any place like that in Minneapolis, esp. NE?)

- Jason Goray, Sheridan, NE


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