(VF) especially since I myself, thought you were Keith Ellison. �I think you know I am Black....Having said this are you trying to tell me that only white people support Olin??? I think if you look around, there are many other blacks that are jumping at the chance to elect Olin Moore, Including myself.
JP: I've looked around, and no, I haven't noticed other Blacks, jumping at the chance, but I have REALLY noticed you and only you. Maybe because you've been one of the most vocal supporters on this list for Olin.....after losing your bid for endorsement, that is. What I'm confused about is if you think Olin is such a great candidate, and the 3rd ward really needs Moore, again why you ran in the first place. Every post lately you've put on here has been about how much the 3rd Ward needs Moore. Which would seem to contradict you're running in the first place, unless the reason you ran didn't have to do with actually getting elected. I do notice that of all the Olin supporters, you're the one who is responding to the racial questions. Something, I'm sure which will change shortly after this in order to deflect this point. And I'm not quite sure how you made the leap from Olin's supporters haveing trouble telling Black people apart to no Black people support Olin. But considering your comment about also confusing me and Keith, I think you only underscored my earlier point about his supporters and perhaps shed light on yours. (VF) I really resent the fact that race has even crept into this debate. We are supposed to be about fairness for everyone, and I am sooooooo tried of hearing what Don Samuels can do for black males, if this is the case, let him continue to do the job unelected, or better yet why has he not done the job all over Minneapolis instead of just Jordan. JP: I don't think I even need to add anything to this (VF)But, if an endorsementis won, then oh my!, the delegates are the best friends. JP: I think you missed the point on this which wasn't a complaint that the delegates were family and friends (that's the way the game is played, and smartly if you're planning a run to get them there), but rather a praise of Don who didn't have these and yet still received enough votes to make it through the 1st Ballot. (VF) Didn't Don get the list? it was available to all that asked. I think what Dennis was saying was how many of the delegates live in the new 3rd ward. Something Greg Abbott alluded to. I think he may have been trying to get to the point of the delegates not living in the new 3rd ward since the candidates living there seemed to much of an issue. (VF) I agree, but why is it that everything you write about Olin is about somebody throwing or hosting a party, or why is it that every time you get, you try and smear him and his wife. I think maybe you haven't read my posts directly which have asked about specific policy and experience issues. The questions about parties, etc. have been in direct response to you and other supporters attacking Don and the other candidates without having the consistency of asking or expecting the same thing from Olin. And I'm not sure how relating the events that happened is trying to smear someone, unless by smear you mean tell the truth. (VF) You are right, but they are not telling me anything, they are asking me,A big difference, Well you've got to make up youre mind on this, either the people are telling [YOU] who to vote for, or they're asking for your support. More importantly, that's exactly what an endorsement is supposed to be for, to tell you who your party says you should vote for. You don't need to decide, because these 72 people have decided for you. And this is who you should vote for. So again, I'm wondering how you can feel this way and still support an endorsement. Of course, I'm still wondering why you'd run in the first place if all the 3rd Ward votes need is Moore.... (VF) Then where the honor in the above statement??? Especially if you think your candidate is all that and is the best voice for the community, why not let the voters decide...your words not mine. JP: We will, all of them will decide. Why is this such an issue is the question. If Olin is this great candidate, who is exactly the person the 3rd Ward needs, and can do so much more than any of the other candidates, why are any of his people wasting time attacking other candidates? If he is really the choice of everyone as you've been saying, there shouldn't even be a need to respond to anything. The people should just rise up and carry him into office. But that hasn't happened. There's been repeated slanderous attacks on Don and his campaign. For someone who supposedly isn't as good as Olin or others, he seems to be getting the most attacks. And for the record, Don's supporters have only responded to attacks, never initiated any. Again, you have to wonder about a candidate that is supposedly the best, but his supporters or campaign spent a lot of time assaulting others. File that under "things that make you go hmmmmm." Jonathan Palmer Victory _______________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
