I get frustrated with the "if we let the cops do this" arguments. Here's the crux of 
it.  Problem intersections are KILLING people with no chance of legal action to remedy 
it.  The REASON we don't let the city government mount cameras everywhere is that 
there is no CAUSE for it happening.  Example:  There isn't a homicide problem of any 
consequence in my neighborhood. So,I'd fight just putting up cameras for general 
surveillance because there is no crucial problem.  Now, I might very WELL put up my 
own camera to snap pictures of teens walking down the alley at 2am because we do have 
garage breakins. But I seriously doubt the city, with all its financial problems, is 
going to consider doing it for me.

If I saw something suspicious, might I turn over the photos.  Yeh, I might.  Is this 
violating someone's "privacy"?  What's private about the alley at 2am?  And for sure, 
with my attitude about government, I'm not gonna just give someone graphical evidence 
of people engaged in innocent activity.  But if I caught a picture of someone 
spray-painting my neighbor's garage, I might just turn it in. And tough for the 
socalled "privacy" of the spray painter.

Here's the thing. I'm not a libertarian, I'm not an anarchist, but I do believe in 
civil liberties. But I think there are people who think that any form of cooperation 
with law enforcement is fraternizing with the Dark Side.  They won't identify 
themselves, necessarily, as libertarians, but I think their advocacy of privacy in 
public streets gives them away.  Let's face it, "privacy" always has been associated 
in American law with the privacy of your own residence.  I don't know when or where 
anyone said you can't be watched out in public, and the fact is that if someone wants 
to hire a private investigator, they can compromise every form of privacy you have.

Which doesnt mean I don't want to fight for privacy, but only as regards truly PRIVATE 
places.  If someone wants to mount a camera on Nicollet Mall, and they catch you 
walking down it, don't try to say you are aggrieved because you could get caught in a 
photograph someone is taking, too, and that's not a violation, either.


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Jim Mork--Cooper

"Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be call the Children of God."  Matt 5:9
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