Jim Mork Wrote:

Don Samuels:
I've been in the observer gallery for most of this. 
Every CM on the council affects my city (where I've
resided for over 30 years).  But I don't get a vote. 
However, I will point out that "thugs and bullies" is
a bad choice of words.  Was Jerry Haaf a thug or
bully? Is Lt. Greg Reinhard, the commander of the
traffic division, who was kind enough to post
statistics on traffic laws a thug or a bully? Is
Thomas Thompson, my CCP office in 3rd precinct either
of those?

In short, despite people like Mike Sauro, MOST police
are sincere professionals who have a great desire to
perform well in their chosen vocation.  I'm proud to
offer them any reasonable help I can so that our
common goals can be met.  I deeply regret seeing these
inflammatory incidents occur occasionally.  And I
think the officers with the right attitude cringe,
too.  But they must do more than cringe.  They must
commit themselves to a solution that doesn't sweep the
matter under the rug.  Everybody suffers when these
stories make the news.

Let us at least resolve to respect the conscientious
majority who do so much to make our city safe.  I
think that's a pre-condition to making it SAFER, which
is what we all want.  It has always been a marvel to
me that the violent crime rate in St Paul can be so
much LESS than in Minneapolis.  I think the superior
relationship between uniformed officers and civilians
must be part of the reason.


TN:

Sorry Jim, (and list.)  I'm not going to give an inch
on this one.  My first experience with a Minneapolis
Police officer was in 1987. I was 16 years old,
comming home from high school sick.  I was stopped,
slammed up against a car with a gun pointed at my head
as the cop told me that he "could make you take a drug
test, in fact he could throw me in the river and no
one would know."

Since then, every experience with a Minneapolis cop
has been negative or disturbing.  I still have a trace
of the nasty scar a trnsit cop cave me when he pulled
me out of my taxi and roughed me up.  He didn't like
that I was waiting for a customer in a no parking
zone, even though the ordinance specifically gives
taxis 2 minutes to get customers.  For the record I am
a law abiding father of one simply trying to live and
contribute to the city I was born and raised in.  The
moment they see that Middle Eastern name on my
license, the thug in every officer I encounter comes
out.

When I ran for city council in the 6th in 2001, I met
cops who seemed decent, but they were the ones at the
community meetings, or at city hall, not the ones you
encouter in the street.  

So Jim, in my experience, it's clearly the minority of
officers who are not thugs, but let's suppose for a
moment that you're right and that it's a few bad
apples poisening the barrel.  You still have a poisen
barrel and you don't know how many apples have been
contaminated, they all need to go.

Second, the police federation simply as a union in one
thing, but you really have to question their public
defense of the Christopher Burns killing and their
support of policies which endanger the public and
allow rogue behaviour.  

Sure, the Police Federation has every right to endorse
candidates just as I have the right to make my own
decisions, and post on lists based on thier
endorsement.  To me, this endorsement means that
candidates will be making decisions consistant with
policies the police federation supports.  That scares
me, and I'm sure it scares a lot of other people.  

There are some situations in which city leaders need
to seek common ground, but with the extreme situation
on our police department, this is an issue where a
truly principled leader must hold their ground and
make it clear that certain behavior will not be
tolerated.

Tamir Nolley
Holland
Ward 3

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