David Brauer is correct about competition for similar funds, if in fact a
tax levy were approved to fully fund NRP.  At present, NRP is not funded
through that source.  Also the City Council proposed five year plan for
Community Development, (CD), does not include such funding.  That CD Plan
calls for funding from a number of sources, most prominent of which are
Federal funds including CDBG, Empowerment Zone, Aids Housing, Home, and
others. Included is also income from common projects including the TIF
Development Account and interest, but not from the tax revenue stream.  So
at present and in the proposed "planned" future there are discrete funding
sources for Police and for NRP.

Jay Clark asks, "I am sure this proves what an ignoramus I am, but how much
NRP-dedicated
TIF money is there now?"

No Jay, it does not prove anything other than you are smart enough to ask
for pertinent information. I believe the total from Common Projects TIF and
Interest income is 11 million dollars this year. Again I may be wrong, but I
believe this amount is legislated to be used for NRP. If like Jay I am wrong
and an "ignoramus" about this, like Jay I am smart enough to ask that the
correct information be posted.

If the Council passes a 33 million dollars set aside for Community
Development and 1/3 were to be set aside for NRP, then that 1/3 would be the
same 11 million dollars. Still no competition between NRP and the Police for
tax dollars.

Jim Graham,
Ventura Village




----- Original Message -----
From: David Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mpls list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:03 AM
Subject: RE: [Mpls] Miss-Information about NRP and Police Competing For Same
Dollars


Jim Graham writes:

> Lets start with the basis of your concern, the forced choice between NRP
and
> more police officers.  This is falsehood and deception of the worst kind.
> NRP and the Police are funded out of two totally separate revenue streams.
> It is not the same money at all.  Any politician who brings this up is a
> liar, or just incredibly miss-informed, so please be skeptical of all
other
> things they might say.

I believe Jim is wrong. His is right that NRP DOES have a dedicated revenue
stream - TIF proceeds from the Downtown Common Project. However, tax
increment revenues were cut dramatically by the 2001 state legislature. I
believe there is not enough NRP-dedicated TIF to pay the $11 million
currently obligated to the program.

So that means if you want to "fully fund" NRP - either at the current $11
million annually or the old $20 million per year - you need to get the money
from a property-tax-supported place. You can use a special levy or you can
cut city departments such as cops (or fire, or public works, or ITS, or
licensing, etc. - it doesn't have to be cops, but it does have to be some
city function).

This is not a comment on NRP's worth. Like Jim, I'm a fan. But after decades
of pushing off debt (including repayment of NRP's first-10-year bonds
until...now), we need to be honest about our finances.

Bottom line: NRP has dedicated revenues, but not enough. We have to make a
collective choice where, or whether, to get the rest.

David Brauer
King Field
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