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From: "Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Mpls] Creative Revenue Raising

> the Lake Street bridge into St Paul.
> The bridge is signed at 30 mph but because it is has no cross traffic and
> because the speed changes half a block off the bridge, virtually everyone
> goes faster than 30 mph.
MN: This argument is so weak and overused.
If "virtually everyone" takes a hard right at the middle of the bridge, will you 
follow them?

>Note that they have not been ticketing St Paul residents as they leave the City, nor
> do they ticket at night when St Paul residents are coming back into the
> City.  Just in the morning when the Minneapolis residents are coming across.
MN: Any proof of this?

> Now it would be fine if this was legal.
MN: You go over the speed limit, you get a ticket. Seems legal to me.

> For everyone's info, the State of
> Minnesota sets the speed on roads like Marshall Avenue and they have found
> that the appropriate speed for Marshall Avenue, to the border of Ramsey
> County, is 35 mph.  So the small part of Marshall Avenue that is signed at
> 30 mph is in fact signed incorrectly.
MN: Again, is there any proof ? Is this a fact? What makes it incorrect?
Seems to me that if a person were to drive at or under the 30 MPH speed limit on the 
bridge the 30MPH
limit at the other end wouldn't be a problem, especially considering the hill one has 
to climb on that
end.

>But the City has no incentive to
> change this as they are making money from the deal by parking their cops on
> the end of the bridge and ticketing people.
MN:Easy money. I wouldn't pass on it.

> Now I called the City of St Paul to talk to them about changing this and
> their response was that they have no interest in changing it and in fact,
> they would like to see the speed limit even lower (imagine that).
MN:I lived just a few blocks from the bridge on that side, and lots of my neighbors 
had children.
Perhaps they are the reason the city would like to lower the speed limit. None of us 
like to have people
from somewhere else using our neighborhood as a freeway, do we?

>  Does anyone have any experience in getting speed limit signs changed and if so
> could they please e-mail me off - list about any advice they would have?


Bumper sticker of the week: Vehicles have changed, the laws of physics haven't.
Mike Nelson
Driving In Central Karefully


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