I totally agree - try to avoid the chemicals if you can. I have a third suggestion if 
you want to plant now. Go to a rental place and rent a sod cutter for a day and just 
slice the grass off. It works surprisingly well - you just push by hand like a push 
mower (I even have a bad back and it wasn't too bad). A neighbor and we did it and 
shared it over a weekend and it was great. Dig in some mulch, etc and vola you have 
yourself a garden bed. Beats plain old digging up the grass - I've done that too...

Liz Greenbaum   
Longfellow


Mark Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 7/21/03 5:38 PM, "Chris Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> My advice would be to use an herbicide like Round-up (glycophosphate) on
>> the area first to kill everything.  


>I agree with most of what Chris said except here. I personally wouldn't want
>to use something like Round-up on a boulevard because if it does rain, it is
>gonna go straight into the storm sewers. Since meteorology in MN is largely
>a crapshoot, you can't count on the local weather report for much.
>
>I think a better approach would be to mow down the grass as short as
>possible, keep doing this for several weeks to burn it out, and then smother
>with lots of mulch (about 4" at least) over the winter if possible.
>
>Then you can spend some time thinking and researching about what you want,
>plant in spring and use the mulch around whatever you plant.
>
>I'd also recommend coming up to NE Minneapolis and checking out the
>boulevard gardens around here for ideas on what to plant. There are tons of
>them! Audubon Park, just north of me, seems to be a particularly rich
>treasure trove of boulevard gardens.
>
>Lastly, make sure to check the city boulevard planting ordinance so all your
>hard work doesn't go for naught at the hands of a nitpicky inspector. You
>can download a PDF copy from the "Blooming Boulevards" web page:
>http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/citywork/planning/sections/cue/blooming.asp
>
>Mark Snyder
>Windom Park 
>
>
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