Shawn Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After Rochelle Olson, poor article on Minneapolis > City Council Member Natalie Johnson Lee, I want to > know how many African-Americans,
Is that African American Catholics, Muslims, Jews (yes there <are>), Protestants, Somalis, Congolese, Namibians, white South Africans or Zimbabwean immigrants, Gabonese, Botswanans, or black Guyanese immigrants? > Asian-American, Is that Chinese - the Zhuang, Manchu, Hui, Miao, Uygur, Yi, Tujia, Mongolian, Tibetan, Bouyei, Dong, Yao, Korean, Bai, She, Lisu, Gelo, Lahu, Dongxiang, Va, Shui, Naxi, Qiang, Tu, Xibe, Mulam, Kirgiz, Daur and Jingpo, Hani, Li, Kazak and Dai, Salar, Blang, Maonan, Tajik, Pumi, Achang, Nu, Ewenki, Jing, Jino, Deang, Ozbek, Yugur, Bonan, Moinba, Oroqen, Drung, Tatar, Hezhen, Gaoshan, Lhoba - Japanese, Tibetans, Vietnamese, Hmong, Laotian, Thai, or Burmese? > Chicanos/Latinos Aztec, Mayan or Bolivian? > and American > Indians work at the Startribune? Which tribe are you talking about? Or do they all look alike? :-D <snip> > Do you think Mr. Ron Edwards was correct when he called > the Startribune the "Johannesburg > Times"? Johannesburg has the Beeld, Daily Mail and Guardian, Sunday Times...oh, you meant the <Johannesburg Times> - last printed in 1898? That one? Jim Mork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> > What is going to be the "consequences" for panhandling? Maybe a paying job? There's so many jobs here, they're importing Mexicans...and they work very hard to earn a living. The Somalis are opening so many businesses that Sabri can't even keep up with the demand. There's blue collar jobs all over the metro - but only if you really <want> to work. Push comes to shove, someone could even challenge an employer for proof of his or her employee's eligibility to work in the United States. Any takers? Michelle Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To quote Pauline Thomas in her article in this week's Spokesman, <snip> > "Our quality of life is worse because we have to fight so hard to survive, and > we are under constant stress." Your quality of life is worse because enough of your neighborhoods have an abysmal crime rate and a ghetto sociopathology that is yours to solve. > Let's face it folks. All day, every day, in every area of this city and in > the suburbs, folks commit minor traffic violations. However, since police are > not intensely scrutinizing the driving habits of everyone in every area, most > folks get away with it. Think about it--how many white folks do you know who > have been arrested or ticketed for a broken tail light? Quick - how many Pakistanis do you know have been arrested or ticketed for a broken tail light? > But try having > everything you do and every move you make put under a microscope and see how > well you fare under the strain. Oh, yeah...the Colin Ferguson argument. > Under CODEFOR, HEAT and other such programs, police allege that minor traffic > violations lead to bigger crimes (an allegation that has yet to be proven, > even in NYC where such programs originated). I think you'd better check again. The Transit PD (before they merged with the NYPD) were busting all sorts of petty offenders and misdemeanants. I'd venture an educated guess the cops found these guys popped warrants and were in possession of various forms of contraband. Jumping a turnstile is Theft of Service in NYS, except when under the jurisdiction of the Transit Adjudication Bureau - it's a fare beat. > And arrests for minor offenses are used cumulatively against people of color > to edge them closer and closer to real prison time. To which, uh, "people of color" are you referring? The Chinese? Somalis? > The result is that > Minnesota has the highest rate of overprosecution and overconviction of Blacks > of all the states in the country, according to a number of studies. Overprosecution and overconviction? Interesting charge. Please cite the studies. > The studies use the term OVER because they showed that whites arrested for the > same offenses are just not being prosecuted (consequently convicted) at the > same rates. Where whites <committing> the same offenses at the same rate (adjusted for their proportion in the general population), absent aggravating circumstances? Or where there other aggravating circumstances or concurrent charges when blacks were arrested? > and you can see why jails and prisons in this state and country are filled > with Black faces. Committing a disproportionate amount of felonies? > Bryn Mawr N.I. Krasnov Loring Park TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. 2. If you don't like what's being discussed here, don't complain - change the subject (Mpls-specific, of course.) ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
