Aaron Neumann writes:

dear dyna, 

reminder #2: 

2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. 

i will try to respect the list rules...and i realize
that your frustrated 
with the situatiuon in your neigborhood - but we're
all homies - i mean 
human...um...you get the idea. 

its not cool to degrade others...even if you feel its
justified. 

by the way...why do you think he was released with NO
charges? 

aaron neumann
holland 

Dyna writes: 

> 
>>  it's 3 am and the local pimps and prostitutes are
still open for 
>> business on my corner (Ontime Delivery truck 204
was the last > customer)
>       
>       I sent that message a week before Mr. Porter and
his homies were busted. 
> 
>       I'm quite familiar with Mr. Porter's criminal
proclivities, and 
> immediately recognized his picture splashed about
the media. The same Mr. 
> Porter who claims to have been sexually assaulted
had no qualms about 
> selling drugs and promoting prostitution in front of
children. It was he 
> and his homies that kept me up past 3 am that night
with their dealing and 
> pandering in the 2500 block of 3rd Street North. 
> 
>       Over last weekend I overheard Mr. Porter's homies
talking about the 
> neighborhood getting too "hot", and they seemed to
be getting nervous. The 
> criminal activity tapered off over that weekend.
Probably Mr. Porter and 
> his homies suspected a bust was imminent and
"cleaned house", partly 
> explaining why police found less drugs than
expected. 
> 
>       This is a different neighborhood since Mr. Porter
and his homies were 
> busted. Neighbors are out doing yard work, and
children are free to play 
> again. Hey, if this keeps up I'll have no excuse to
leave Minneapolis, and 
> the two empty houses next to Mr. Porter's drug house
will finally sell to 
> new families. Hopefully Mr. Porter will be more
quickly sentenced to serve 
> out his most recent felony conviction at a proper
locked facility, and his 
> homies will move on. Failing that, I'd suggest that
CUAPB and Mr. Porter's 
> other enablers keep him off our streets lest he
commit further felonies 
> whilst his allegations are properly disposed of. 
> 
>       enjoying another quiet night in Hawthorne, 
> 
>               Dyna Sluyter 

TN:
While I respect this attempt at rational discussion we
are not dealing with a rational issue.  

We are dealing with two sets of sterotypes, one that
black people on the Norhtside are drug dealers and bad
(and therefore it's OK for cops to do whatever they
want to them...Dyna won't say it out loud, but these
clearly seem to be her views), and that cops have to
be brutal thugs by nature, or that they are not
effective.  Also, that anyone concerned about police
brutality supports crime.

I just returned from a trip to Tucson Arizona, and I
read about the Minneapolis incident in the Arizona
Daily Star.  It struck me that in Tuscon, despite the
usual obnoxious cop attitude, the police really do try
to help everyone, even the "freaks."  I think that
this is because the people who live there don't have
this fundamental resentment of those who are
different, either by race or by choice.

>From the moment I stepped off the plane, I noticed how
angry we are.  I heard people complaning about the
Somalis, about Black people, about the gutter punks
and the hippies and how they wished they'd all go
away.

I won't bore this list with another another lecture
about how a "troubled" North Side public school saved
my son and gave him a much better life (and education)
than he's ever had, but I will call a spade a spade
and tell it like I see it.

If you support what happened to Mr. Porter, you
support police brutality and you do so for racist, (or
predjudice) reasons.  

If you support what happened to Al Flowers (or Bryce
Williams..I'm still not clear on this one exactly, but
I know the Minneapolis Police Department and I still
say that there isn't a good one in the lot,  and even
since I cut my hair I haven't met one that looked
anything other than mean) you support police brutality
and do so for predjudice reasons.

I'm waiting to see who starts making excuses for the
behavior of Bill Finney's son, and I'll bet it's the
same people who are supporting police brutality but
won't openly say it. ( I know this is St. Paul, but
since so many people seem to think that Finney is the
answer to all of our problems I thought I'd throw that
out there.) 

I also noticed criticism from people I respect of many
of CUAPB's statements.  I am one of the founding
members of this organization, and I've known Michelle
for years.  There's no conspiricy against cops, no
false statements, no coddling of criminals.  Just a
buch of people from ALL walks of life who are
horrified (as were a bunch of cops I talked to in
Arizona) at the behavior of the Minneapolis Police
Department.

I think it's a horrible irony that the only people
(besides CUAPB and the traditional activist group who
are willing to do anything about it is the
Ashcroft/Mueller FBI.  

I think the fact that the MPD can't go for two weeks
without a brutality allegation, and hasn't done so in
years, should have risen enough eyebrows that the
problem should have been taken care of years ago.

I'm not really suprised at the MPD's behavior, I am
however shocked, ashamed and angry at the prominent
Minneapolis residents who quietly support and
obviously approve of the racist acts of police
brutality.

Tamir Nolley
Holland Ward 3  

PS, Dyna, I thought you moved to the suburbs, why
would you care?


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