Or Peter McLaughlin, or RT Rybak and I'm sure a few others. On behalf of the 895 others of us or so on this list, give it a rest already! I really hope decision makers on this issue are taking notice of the lack of tact and respect that the "activists" of this "organization" have. I'm all for respectful disagreement and occasional heated exchanges but the constant pot shots and conspiracy theories are getting more than a little old and VERY predictable. I was really hoping the list managers' post about this thread would improve things, frankly it hasn't.
Scott Persons Lyndale Neighborhood Suffering from "STRIDE fatigue"
Thanks to David Brauer for clarifying that this link WAS within list rules. It seems that the names have been changed to protect the innocent and guilty with the cartoon.
http://www.stride-mn.org/cartoonpages/RKB-beeep5.htm
It seems that rather than debating the issues Smith Parker - and Access Project supporters have to call the criticism "conspiracy theories". I suppose this post by David Piehl is an example of the conspiracy theories.
To kick-off the rebuilding of Lake Street "planning" process, Hennepin County and the Smith Parker public relations law firm created a Lake Street PAC. The PAC, in an idealized version, is ostensibly to create plans for Lake Street based on neighborhood goals, resident dreams, business owner needs, etc.
Doesn't that sound great? Residents can select their own future - isn't that what is implied?
Many voices are calling for fewer lanes, larger sidewalks, and other pedestrian-oriented amentities to support a livable and shop-able Lake Street.
Because the "public input" process created by Hennepin county and the Smith Parker law firm didn't include opportunities for residents to be included in a visioning process, meetings were held in Spanish and English to obtain resident and business visioning ideas for the street, sponsored by Karen Clark, Robert Lilligren, and Gary Schiff. At the meeting, Gary Schiff (thankfully) drew attention to the sad detail that the state money is tied to increasing capacity on Lake Street. Without state money, there is no project.
Hence, the elaborate "input" process created by Hennepin County and the Smith Parker public relations law firm is so misleading that it may constitute an outright lie. Why are residents led to believe that their ideas matter, when the only ideas that REALLY matter are the ones that increase capacity??
EY: This isn't the first time Smith Parker has been disingenous in the way they collect public input. When they took "votes" on various options, they didn't include "no build" as one possible option.
Piehl continues:
If you put the Lake Street project into the context of increasing capacity, I think many people would simply decline it alltogether. Instead, it seems there is a strategy - not unlike with the Access Project - to let residents say their piece, then gradually eliminate all resident ideas for "technical" reasons, making it seem that the PAC has selected the otherwise unacceptable expansion of Lake Street capacity.
EY: This one does sound quite familiar.....
Piehl continues: This approach may "get things done", but it shouldn't be construed as a community input process, and I hope Peter McLaughlin won't accept it as such.
There are consequences. The Access Project PAC, with their acceptance of infrastructure to accomodate additional lanes, has now ensured that the additional lanes will be built; MNDoT's plan is to accelerate the 2015 timeline - insiders say the acceleration is to have the construction of additional lanes coincide with the construction of the Excess Project. So, to Dave Jensen and all others who dismissed such concerns as "conspiracy theories", I am now (sadly) saying "I told you so".
EY: The whole thought of 5 lanes each way on 35W is appalling to me. How is this going to help the residents of Minneapolis? How does all the taxable land takings for this help with our tax base?
In my opinion, let the suburbs take their taxable land off the tax roles and build roads. I don't know why increasing capacity of the freeways through the city will help city residents. It will just increase through traffic that doesn't even stop in the city - and that's traffic that should be using the beltway.
Anyone else recently get your tax statements? Ouch!
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