Please, it's when the votes are counted that someone wins, and 80%+ of police and firefighters live where they can't vote for mayor. Rybak would have won just as well without you all.
This does not excuse Rybak for his failings, but credit for his election is hardly due any one bunch, especially those whose only stake in this City are their paychecks and not their homesteads. And this is true in every urban metro in the country. Police and fire forces are occupying armies, not residents and citizens of the cities their paid to protect. Andy Driscoll Saint Paul -------- > From: "Ben Jangula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:00:24 -0800 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "gemgram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Mpls] Minneapolis Police Federation > > In the last election Ryback heavily courted the Police and Fire vote and > clearly would not have won without it.We wanted SSB out and worked hard to > unseat her. The number of campaign workers tipped things in his favor (not > to mention money). This next election of council and mayor may be very > surprising as most new police and fire are city residents. We will remember > who our friends are. Stay tuned. > > B. Jangula > Longfellow > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gemgram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Ben Jangula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 8:31 AM > Subject: Re: [Mpls] Minneapolis Police Federation > > >> Only if they do it Ben. It has been a real long time since the > Federations >> exercised the power they could have. They once had the power to elect an >> unpopular Mayor. In the last election they did not even exercise enough >> power to keep the most anti-cop person in my memory from being elected > City >> Council Member. Dean Zimmerman ran on anti-cop. I think it is time the >> Cops and the Firefighters did indeed exercise some power just to > demonstrate >> they have it. >> >> That budget fiasco earlier last year would not have happened if the Mayor >> and Council actually had to worry about the Federations. It is time to >> "worry them" a little bit. It is time firefighters and Cops stopped being >> the pawns and started being the Knights and Bishops on the political >> chessboard. >> >> Jim Graham >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ben Jangula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Cc: "Booker Hodges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 9:52 AM >> Subject: Re: [Mpls] Minneapolis Police Federation >> >> >>> The reason that the Police Federation and Fire Union are considered >> powerful >>> is : >>> 1. money for contributions >>> 2. Lots and lots of campaign political workers. >>> >>> They can make or break a candidates campaign. >>> >>> Ben Jangula >>> Longfellow >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Booker Hodges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:45 AM >>> Subject: [Mpls] Minneapolis Police Federation >>> >>> >>>> Everyone is always talking about the political power of the > Minneapolis >>>> Police Federation. I would like to know what political power does the >>>> Federation actually have. As a person going into law enforcement I > look >>>> forward to working some place that has a strong union in the labor > sense >>> but >>>> I just don't understand why the Federation is considered such a > powerful >>>> political power. For example: How many members of the Minneapolis > Police >>>> Federation are able to vote in Minneapolis elections? How many voters >> does >>>> the Federation bring to the table? And most importantly in the > political >>>> sense how much money does the Federation contribute to political >>> campaigns? >>>> I would be willing to bet many members of the Federation don't live in >>>> Minneapolis partially because they can't afford the taxes. So the >> question >>>> still remains; Why is the Minneapolis Police Federation considered > such >> a >>>> political power house? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Booker T Hodges >>>> North side >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local > high-speed >>>> providers now. https://broadband.msn.com >>>> >>>> REMINDERS: >>>> 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. >>>> 2. Don't feed the troll! 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