> >Chris Johnson wrote: > > > >There are a number of places where neighbors have managed to get > >through-traffic stopped by cutting intersections in half, making them into > >2 turns, one each for the 2 pairs of roads meeting, or 2 dead-ends and 1 > >turn, thus making the intersection no longer useful for driving through on > >any one street. (As it is hard to explain this clearly, ask if it does not > >make sense.)
Sean Ryan replied:> > I really do despise these types of intersections. They confuse the heck > out of you if your're trying to find someone's home and they increase > traffic on streets that do go through. These intersections are all over in > Southeast near the U of M. It's terrible trying to get from the campus to NE > in the afternoon. The only streets that go through are Johnson/10th, > Stinson/16th and Como Avenue. They have tons of traffic because of "dead > ends'' and 'traffic calming' measures that prevent residents from moving > freely. Mark Anderson: Hear hear!! Traffic calming does occasionally reduce traffic in some areas, at the expense of elevating the blood pressure for those trying to navigate these "calmed" areas, and an offsetting increase of traffic elsewhere. Then the neighbors in the newly busy area try to "calm" their road. If this calming trend continues, we'll eventually have these techniques used throughout the city. At that point the number of cars in each neighborhood will be back to the number they had originally, but with greatly impaired safety, as everyone tries to figure out how to get around in a more complex road pattern. Mark V Anderson Bancroft REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
