MH: Oh yeah, Don't want to start stereotyping rich folk. And certainly do not want to point out their inherent class privilege. Let's just let them continue to rub elbows both professionally, politically as they socialize to screw over all of us working folks, people in poverty, children living in the streets. The time is now to say, no more to this blatant arrogance. And all these testimonials about how nice they are. Wow, I get all teared up.
JP: Here's a wild and crazy idea, how about we try not stereotyping anyone? How about we try taking the high road and debate issues with support and have evidence and data instead of speculation, rumor and innuendo? How about we try questioning those who are our representatives legitimately and demand accountability instead of just making thinks up? You know what now is the time for? Now is the time to set a higher standard. Now is the time to say "No More" to stretching the political canvas from one mayor to the next or one highway to the next. Now is the time to say "No More" to just making things up and shouting them loudly in order to make people think you know what you're talking about. Now is the time to say "No More" to intellectual dishonesty and scare tactics. In a time of heightened fear, spurred by color coded "warnings" and fictitious alerts, why would you even ask the question of whether the Mayor is going to call out the National Guard for 35W? What is there to gain from such postings? So someone saw someone at a game, why is it immediately they're socialixing "to screw over all of us working folks"? Got evidence? Or just innuendo? I, like many others, don't agree with public subsidies for a stadium, I really think that owners can pay for that stuff themselves especially considering the lack of living wage jobs, but you know what I'm comfortable and confident with? The fact that I have an opinion based on actual fact. How do you claim moral superiority when you engage in the same tactics as your alleged aggressors? How do you question anyone's position when yours is based on rumor, hearsay and sarcasm? This is a time for serious people, because we have serious issues. It's a time to raise the level and the standard; to debate the actual issue, not who was talking about it. It's time to be about solving the problems in the City rather than just complaining. Talk is cheap, it's time to "ante up and kick in", and keep your eyes on the Prize. Take any position you want, but have an idea, a suggestion or a solution. We've got a lot that needs to be done, and it can be accomplished a lot better if people are working to get those things done and not just to get sound bytes in. Jonathan Palmer Victory REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
