Not only are they public they should also have record retention schedules
tied to their e-mail archives as well.

It would be interesting to find out if the State Archives received the
e-mail from the Ventura Administration for example or what happened to the
e-mail of our former mayor.

See the State of MN's Data Practices Act:
http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/stats/13/
More on record retention:
http://www.mnhs.org/preserve/records/retentionsched.html


In terms of open meetings, I can tell you that the school board in Winona
tried to experiment with an incoming e-mail address for the public to send
one e-mail to all members.  The e-mails were archived publicly and
initially members were going to reply to the group so they would have the
benefit of seeing each others responses. The lawyers got involved and said
... hmmmm could this group communication violate the open meeting law???
The lack of a solid no closed that project down.  Particularly with a
publicly accessible web archive, I see no reason to use fear of the open
meeting laws to close off communication among citizens and their elected
officials.

Looking into my crystal ball, I predict that in ten years all e-mail that
is legally public to or from an elected official in Minneapolis related to
their official duties with not just remain legally public, it will also be
publicly accessible via the web for all to see just like the value of your
home on the county's web site.

In general, the media and citizens don't exercise their access rights and
the culture within government accepts our proprietary human nature and
allows us to forget the miracle we call democracy.  So once in awhile a
scandal or a breakdown in trust forces those in power to reform themselves
(only to a point) and create new accountability measures.  With the
Internet, the potential of easy accountability without scandal has arisen,
but no one in power has said, turn on the switch that gives all citizens
anytime, anywhere access to how many computers the city bought today or
what that new public employee got for a salary.

The main question is that of building citizen trust, do those in power want
to aggressively use the tools available to them to break through the
barnacles and build automatic accountability and e-disclosure into everyday
government at its deepest level?  Our leaders today, could say, yes we live
the spirit of the American revolution and be proactive in meeting their
generation's democratic obligations or they could accept the stats quo and
wait for scandals or anti-incumbent electoral overthrows to foist such
changes from the outside.

Steven Clift
Carag Resident

P.S. Take a look at Yalova, Turkey.  They claim to put real-time government
spending and bank account information online. On this page you can see the
wealth declarations of their top officials:
http://www.yalova-bld.gov.tr/?Belediye=mal_beyanlari
One of them drive an 87 Mercedes. :-)

According to Yalova's Dec. 2003 presentation, they provide/plan to provide
access to:

Council decisions
Immediate flow of incomes
Daily flow of expenditures
Municipal Tenders
Citizen applications and document follow-up
Wealth Declaration - Increase/decrease of income and wealth of top
officials



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of JOHN AND TAMMY GASPARDO
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 8:50 AM
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> Jason,
> E-mails from Gov't institutions are public domain. If you want a
> copy of an
> officials email record you can request them.
>
>
> >From: Jason C Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >Subject: [Mpls] Open Meetings
> >Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 11:39:48 -0800 (PST)
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> >It's my understanding that public officials can currently skirt
> the intent
> >of Open Meeting laws by
> >using e-mail.  Does anyone have further information on this?
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> >Jason Stone
> >Diamond Lake
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