First, a question for Eureka's Susan Hubbard, who writes:

>Another continued bit of misinformation is that we are not fully
operational.
>We are currently handling the same amount, type and stream (source
>separated) material in our facility that Minneapolis generates.

I didn't say Eureka wasn't fully operational; they have a facility in New
Brighton that has been operating for St. Paul's materials.

I'm talking about Eureka's new *Minneapolis* facility. Susan, are you
talking about that one? Because I am. That's the one where Minneapolis
trucks must go. (If the Minneapolis facility has construction/startup
snafus, city trucks will have to go to Eureka's New Brighton facility. That
will raise the city's truck-operating costs and reduce Solid Waste's net
proceeds used to keep garbage fees level.)

I write, then Chris J. writes:

> > One other correction: Eureka has only been operating its own recycling
> > pickup since April 2003 - so they have yet to celebrate their first
> > anniversary as an operator.
> 
> I think you're splitting hairs, David.  Eureka has been in operation for
> 15 years as an entity, became Eureka Recycling as a separate entity in
> 2001, and began picking up recyclables via truck in April, 2003.

We agree on my fundamental point: Eureka has only picked up recycling for 11
months. (I don't believe its original incarnation ever picked up
recyclables.)

> Picking up the recyclables via truck is not rocket science, 

If pickup was so easy, Eureka wouldn't have used outside contractors
(including BFI) for 14 of its 15 years.

> Further, any criticism of Eureka for its name and organizational
> changes, while at the same downplaying or intentionally ignoring WMI's
> and BFI's extremely checkered pasts is completely bankrupt.

You're missing the context of my original post: many on the list have sung
the praises of Eureka, and damned WMI. Fair enough; I agree with most of
that. My post was to add legitimate operational concerns about Eureka into
the discussion.

> Incidentally, I didn't accuse anyone of a crime -- I said the behavior
> appears like bribery is being committed.  

Now who's splitting hairs?

David Brauer
Kingfield
Likes Eureka, likes comprehensive debate more.

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