I'm new to this list, so please forgive my ignorance of prior posts on 
this topic.
     I'm concerned about posts positing control of second hand smoke via "the 
market." The market needs help from the government (us) when it comes to 
regulating or controlling destructive human behavior. Folks have said HVAC systems 
to control air contaminants are expensive and unreliable, but to suggest that 
this expense is the only market limit is false; as Phyllis Kahn pointed out 
in reference to Barb Lickness's comments on the Clean Indoor Air Act, the 
so-called "unenforceable law" has worked quite well over the years primarily due to 
expectations of the publicâthis in itself is a market force and suggests 
other limits.
     I oppose the ban as I oppose many prohibitions of specific human 
behaviors, not because smoking tobacco is not dangerous, but because it isn't worth 
the expense to protect folks from this danger to me, at least with a ban. I 
don't believe in enforcement against social behaviors, good or bad. I believe in 
good sound education, good sound individual judgments, and choice. The hoopla 
over the local smoking ban ordinances statewide serve to educate, and I have 
learned that they are the wrong way to go. 
     The right way to use the market is to let bar and restaurant owners and 
their patrons do whatever they want within the present law with one 
exceptionâthey must choose smoking or no and they must let potential patrons know 
this 
in an unmistakable way. Municipal permits for smoking establishments as s
uggested in earlier posts seem too expensive to me. As a transplant from Los 
Angeles, California (I'd say go Lakers, but I never was a big fan; Bruins were 
different), Proposition 65 comes to mind: this initiative requires notifying 
visitors and employees of any dangerous materials or substances used in a given 
facility and you can't miss these notices all over the state in prominent 
locations. If I were writing a no smoking ordinance for any business, it would provide 
that they post the standard warnings you see on cigarette packages in this 
country. Proprietors could choose the smoking, drinking, or whatever warning and 
indicate what substance is used or activity goes on that might be a danger to 
a patron or bystander for whatever reasonâthat is how to let the market 
control the problem without a great deal of expense or hoopla to the public. Cities 
can zone the businesses with the offensive products or activities just as they 
do now. No expensive control technology is required. Patronize a business, or 
not.
     If these bans pass, they should be vetoed. The way to stamp out smoking 
is to keep people from lighting up and separate, both physically and 
economically, smokers in the act from nonsmokers. Smokers will die out and not cost 
anyone anything if we just let them suffer all the consequences of their acts 
alone; the same is true of business establishments that cater to them.
Bill Kahn
Prospect Park   
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