Methinks Third Way Network has some serious questions to answer, but they prefer to speak with big donors from the 'burbs rather than neighbors like me.
On Thursday, August 5, 2004, at 01:51 PM, Randall G. Cutting wrote:
So what you're saying is that until we have a police state we shouldn't bother doing anything?
Randall, did I ever propose that? No, all I have proposed is that our Republican dominated state and federal governments adaquately fund our police and jails so the laws on the books can actually be enforced. Take a look at the census stats and you will see that Hawthorne is a neighborhood full of children, yet these guys urinate in the street at midday in front of who knows how many of these children. Does giving the Minneapolis Police enough officers to enforce the law outlawing public indecent exposure amount to a "police state"?
I think not, and consider that these perps may already be convicted sex offenders who have not properly registered their change of address to a Buick? Unfortunately our understaffed police department is too busy belatedly responding to "shots fired" calls to check. And if they take these perps into custody, our understaffed county jail may return them to the street in a few hours.
Ask Detroit how that has worked.
It is notable that the Detroit Boyz gang and Steven Porter felt right at home in Minneapolis. By the way, if you want to see the future of Minneapolis go to Detroit- you will see a city where after the loss of thousands of jobs crime has metacized and taken over the most of the city. Crime has even metacized into the suburbs in Detroit- when I was there last year there were 3 persons murdered in one gas station robbery in a 2nd ring suburb!
The Peace
Foundation should be thanked and congratulated for being willing to take
on such a difficult problem. Frankly if people in Hawthorn don't want the
Peace Foundation there, I'd be interested in having them join us in
Seward. Now granted we don't have many shooting, but there are a number
of barking dogs they could help us with.
Sounds like a project in keeping with Peace Foundation's abilities... Quite seriously Peace Foundation's interventions can be effective in a neighborhood like Seward where the gangs have yet to take control of the streets.
Given a choice, I'd choose the Peace Foundation over the gang-bangers any
day. But if you prefer gang-bangers, just stay indoors behind your locked
doors and give your streets over to drugs and violence.
Randall, are you saying it is my job as an unarmed crippled old lady, substituting for our underfunded police, to confront armed gangs on the street?
Giving Peace a chance in Seward.
and hanging on in Hawthorne,
Dyna Sluyter
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