>Bill wrote > So our scores are higher than most in 4th grade. They aren't by 12th grade. > Couldn't there be any other variables involved besides the school "system" that > is creating less learning as years go by? Perhaps work ethic of the students or > parents insisting that their children do well.
Dorie writes What you said is correct and you even skirted to be within "correctness" Fact is ...parents are not taking the responsiblity of educating their children Johnny does no wrong. They send the kid off to school and like magic it is to be done for them. They do not support the teachers, they do not support the schools and in many cases they do not support the child. It is up to the parent to make sure that kid is in school, is bringing home work to do and is in that library 2 or more times a week. Public schools have everything that is needed to be a success in education..if a kid wants to learn and if it is expected of them by both the teacher and parent. I do believe we need to become more like Japan. To excel and learn is not a fault...that is why they are being sent to school and education is the only way out of dire situations. Bill wrote > By many standards, our college graduates are the best in the world. If you look > at the way colleges and universities go about educating students and compare it > to the way K-12 schools do, Dorie writes Our universities are the best and so our the graduates. Who are these grads? They are the cream of whatever highschool they have come from and it will be up to them to either excel or only be passable, which they themselves pay for. That is reality and once again the cream rises and some are left behind. Even at Yale. One thing to remember, not every child is best in college. Trade schooling needs to be available for kids who like to work with their hands. This has nothing to do with being cerebral or not. We need to get kids started in programs of learning at a very early age and keep the energy going throughout the 12 years. Starting everyone off at a very early age gives all children the same advantage. Class size needs to be smaller beyond the fourth grade, instructors need to be watching for early signs of problems, deal with it..don't pass it along, and most of all...parents need to participate in their childs learning in a positive way by reading, creating experiences, teaching respect, manners, and good English. Perhaps parents need to learn along the way also. Dorie Rae Gallagher Nokomis > > > > > > ========================= > > REMINDERS: > 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. > 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. > > For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html > For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract > ________________________________ > > Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy > Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
