> Chuck wrote:
> The broader point here is how successful the Right has been in framing
> ethics as relating to  person weaknesses

 Dorie writes:
I saw an old duffer trying to pick up a young lady on Lake and 17th this
afternoon coming home from work...he had a  "Bush and Cheney"  sticker on
his back bumper!  Ethics, power, social status, bought and sold..dime on the
dollar.

Dorie Rae Gallagher
Nokomis

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