On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Tamir Nolley wrote:

> These days I'm something of a Green Party partisan.  However, the one
> thing that has NOT been said on the fusion thread is that (in theory at
> least) these city elections are supposed to be NON-PARTISAN!!!
>  I'm not really sure how I feel about city elections at this point.  I
> remember that in 1997, Dean Zimmermann (park board) and Jim Niland (city
> council) were both elected as fusion candidates.  I believe the
> designation said "DFL/Green Party/New Party." I have no idea how well
> that wroked, but in 2001, partisan affiliation to the parties and led to
> many potential fusion candidates not being endorsed by anyone, even when
> they could have been endorsed by everyone (in theory anyway.)
>  I find it sick and disturbing that that these elections are in fact the
> MOST partisan of elections.  It is dishonest and makes the city charter
> look like a meaningless piece of paper.  The DFL is usually the worst
> offender in this regard, but all major parties, including the Green and
> Independence Parties have been forced to view these as more partisan and
> therefore act accordingly.

The term non-partisan is misleading. It does not mean non-acrimonious. It
means there is a primary, after which the top two (even of the SAME party)
go the the general election. In a partisan race, each of many parties has
a candidate in the general - so you can choose among 3 or more.


>  This leads to PR.  Forgetting that city elections are supposed to be
> non-partisan in the first place, proportional representation does
> address having the views of the political minority being represented.
> However, not every political party uses a democratic process to elect
> it's candidates in all situations.

What you're complaining about is the PARTY LIST version of PR. I don't
like it either. I would not lift a finger to put it in place. Time wasted
when what we really need is the version of PR called STV - Single
Transferrable Vote - where YOU can vote for any candidate of any party at
any place in your priority ranking. It gives the incumbents the LEAST
security of any system I know - that's one reason I like it - and the
citizens the maximum power. I don't like hacks any better than you do.

--David Shove
Roseville
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