David Shove: 
With PR in Mpls and 13 seats to fill, 1/13 of the total vote would elect
your choice. 1/13 = about 7.5%.

With only 10 seats, 1/10, or 10% would be required.

I prefer the lower threshold/greater diversity of 1/13 over the higher
threshold/lower diversity of 1/10.

Under the kind of PR I like (STV), you can declare a perty, OR any issue you
like as your party name. Thus there could be a "North Mpls" label, to
counter the feared dominance of white bourgeois from SW. Or a "Labor"
label. Or any other - the voters would winnow out the ones they did/didn't
want, without "wasting" a vote. In a few elections we'd come to see what
issues/parties REALLY move people here - and govt would (have to) be much
more responsive to exactly that.


Aaron Neuman's response to my question about RP providing for geographic
representation:

If it's one, and only one, Mpls Ward for all of
> Mpls, then the council represents the entire city, much like the Mayor.
> If the concern is that some areas would not be represented due to the
> possibility of some CMs not living in every neighborhood (which is also
> true now) and therefore some geographical areas may not be provided with
> as good as city services/representation, then that's noted, but I'm not
> sure that would be the case.  Policy setting affects the entire city as
> is, and, in my opinion, that's what a city council is for.  It's not so
> much about geographical representation as it is about just plain old
> fashion representation of views, concerns, ideas, etc.
>
> I don't really think that geographical representation has a lot of
> weight behind it.

Jeanne Massey responds:
I'm not convinced that geographic representation in a proportional
representation (PR) election model doesn't have much weight behind it,
because the city is so geographically divided by race, ethnicity and income
(and voting turnout is lower in poorer areas of the city).  I understand
that most PR systems are party based and that PR has a track record of
assuring better representation by minority communities without necessarily
being geographically based, but a single district model doesn't GUARANTEE it
would happen and, as such, certain geographic areas could be marginalized in
the process.

In order to ensure balanced geographical representation in a PR system, such
as the STV (single transferable vote) approach David Shove outlines (which
is like IRV/PR combined as you rank your choices within the multi-candidate
district), you could create smaller geographic based districts (e.g., 3 or
4) WITHIN Minneapolis, as opposed to one SINGLE district for the entire
city. Each smaller district would have a smaller number of elected members
(e.g. 3 or 4), as opposed to up 10 - 13 members in one single district as
Shove prescribes above.

While geographic representation may create redundancy in focus on certain
issues, I don't see that as a problem and I would like to see a system that
minimizes disenfranchisement of representation from poorer (usually
non-majority white) areas of the city.

PR is a superior system of representation than the simpler IRV election
model as it allows for multiple winners per district (representing various
perspectives in "proportion" to the votes they get, assuring majority rule
AND minority representation), rather than one winner as the IRV model would
allow (but IRV is a great first step towards PR.) 

For a good reviews of how PR works (in its various modes) see
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/polit/damy/BeginnningReading/howprwor.htm

http://ed.labonte.com/pr.html.  

The benefits of PR outlined in this second piece include:

There is much greater voter participation. In countries using PR, voter
turnout is usually in the 70% to 95% range. 

Campaigns tend to be issue oriented rather than popularity contests. Because
American society is so diverse, it is difficult to find issues that will
guarantee majority support. Instead, campaign managers fight to attract
swing voters who are not attracted to either candidate. They have discovered
the most effective way to do this is by smearing the opponent. Swing voters
are more influenced by negative campaigns because they are unattracted to
the positive positions of either candidate. Under PR, however, a majority is
not required to get elected. Instead politicians run campaigns directed at a
particular constituency and the most effective campaigns are issue oriented.


Minorities and woman get much greater representation under proportional
representation. Women in countries using PR generally comprise somewhere in
the range of 25% - 35% of elected officials, as opposed to less than 5% here
in the U.S. PR has been used in Voting Rights Act cases where it has been
shown that gerrymandered districts or the use of at-large representation has
denied minorities fair representation. PR has proven to be an effective way
of ensuring minority representation in Alamogordo, NM and Peoria, IL. Blacks
have been continuously represented on the city council and school committee
of Cambridge, MA since it instituted its version of PR in 1941. 

There is a much greater selection under proportional representation.
Americans come in more than two flavors. There is no way that two political
parties can represent the diversity of opinion that exists in this country.
Under PR the size of the vote determines the size of the representation, but
everyone gets represented.


Jeanne Massey
Kingfield




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