I like Scott's reasoning. Why mess around with state police - let the feds do it. Army? FBI? CIA? Why even have so many fed cops - let the friendly CIA do it. Clearly, tho, even national cops should be replaced by international world cops.
Also, everyone should eat the same kind of pizza - 10", sausage and mushroom, with extra cheese, from just one vendor - why duplicate efforts? And, think of all the problems and ugly differnces of opinion we could avoid by cloning all Minneapolitans from just one Minneapolis citizen, all wearing standard gear, watching the same TV shows (just one on at a time - drop needless diversity), etc. To make it fair, the clonee would be chosen by lottery. Half of the clones would crafted the second sex, but in all other respects be EXACTLY like the first sex - you'd always know EXACTLY what your lover/mate was thinking. Ditto all other relations - you'd know EXACTLY what your boss is thinking, and HE YOU!(oh oh, well so much for THAT job). To know how you're looking, you wouldn't need a mirror - just look at anyone your gender! What a boon! It's true that such a monoculture could easily be wiped out by adversity (eg a certain lot of state fair pronto-pups), or sink into sloth - but till then, think of the cost savings! The saving wear and tear on our fragile brains! O, bliss! O blessed somnolence! ZZZZZzzzzz.... --David Shove Roseville On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Aaron Klemz asked:" can someone explain what the benefit is > to having an independent Park Police? " > > I think it is a similar question to why don't we just have State Police. All > Minnesota Police could all have the same uniforms, all drive the same cars > and all have the same administration............ > > It would be really helpful to have a conversation about this that wasn't > just an argument that was based on overly broad or unproven assumptions. > The lack of any actual numbers or careful analysis of the very different > kind of jobs that are done really hurts the possibility of an informed > decision. > I have some opinions from personal experience that might be helpful in > providing some context, but I am also trying to get more information from > Chief > Brad Johnson to add to this discussion. > > The parks are statistically safer than the rest of the city. Why is that? > There are a variety of reasons but certainly part of that is that there are > Park Police who focus on Parks. > > Kids, cops, and community policing. Community policing is proactive problem > solving that involves the community. > In a totally over broad generalization, the administration and conduct of > the Minneapolis Police Department is basically antithetical to community > oriented policing. The separate police force that was supposed to do > community > oriented policing, CCP/Safe has marginalizes any change in the MPD and even > that > is disappearing. > > The Seward neighborhood is putting a restorative justice program together. > We met with Sgt. Gross from the MPD and Chief Brad Johnson from the MPRB to > get police officers to use their discretion to give juveniles a choice of > receiving a citation or having the option of going through a restorative > justice > program. Chief Johnson said he would talk to the officers that work the area > and have them do this and have the Park Director help out as well. > Sgt. Gross said it was a great idea but he didn't have a structure to have > any officers buy in to this program. > > The Park Police have the capability to solve problems before they get worse > and work with the community to identify problems before they become criminal > problems. > The MPD is more of a paramilitary structure designed to respond to crimes > that have been already committed. > > So I really don't see this as duplication of services. I see these as > different police forces with different missions. > The Park Police are the only Neighborhood Police we have in uniform and I am > glad the are there and they have an administration that supports these > efforts. > > I think Joan Berthiaume had a good idea -maybe we should call the Park > Police- Park Rangers to help clarify their different mission. > > Thanks, > Scott Vreeland Seward > > To my friends at CPED, you folks work hard and I respect you and your work > even when we don't agree. > REMINDERS: > 1. 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