The U.S. Census has historically underestimated Minneapolis (and St. Paul)
population between censuses (remember, the 2003 number was an ESTIMATE).
The Met Council 2004 estimate is 382,295 a net loss of population in
Minneapolis since the 2000 census of 452 people or about one tenth of one
percent. (The statistician in me always wonders about "estimates" of six
significant figures.)  Most statisticians would say this is not statically
significant.

Some quotes from the STib article on those Census estimates (the same one
that published the estimates Vicky is quoting): from
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3980002.html:

"There's a growing gap between what they are saying and what we believe is
going on," said Tom Gillaspy, the state demographer.

And Minneapolis Planning Director Chuck Ballentine said he finds it "hard to
believe" the figures show his city shrinking. 

The estimates, Gillaspy said, are based on indicators that no longer reflect
what's happening, especially in Minneapolis.

"They are using data showing large-scale demolitions of housing in
Minneapolis and carrying forward this data as though it were still
happening," he said. "In reality, high-density housing has gone up on some
of those same sites."

Ballentine said other signs that point to continued growth are low vacancy
rates and various indications that the flow of immigrants into Minneapolis
and the region continues to be high. "There's no reason to suspect that
there is anything but growth," he said. 

........

For another look at the exidus/inodus, here is the Met Council employment
estimates for Mpls in 1990 and 2000 (I think the only years available)

1990    278,438                 2000    301,826 

Some really fun Excel spreadsheets are at:
http://www.metrocouncil.org/metroarea/AboutEstimates.htm
and
 http://www.metrocouncil.org/metroarea/stats.htm

.................................
Sheldon Mains
Seward Neighborhood, Minneapolis, Minnesota 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  Victoria Heller
> Subject: [Mpls] Minneapolis Babble and Denial
> ....<snip>....
> [Vicky here]  Please cite your source.  Here's mine which was
> also published in the Strib a few months ago.....
> 
> POPULATION DECREASE
> The population of Minneapolis was estimated by the Census
> Bureau to be 373,188 residents as of July 1, 2003. That was a 
> decrease of 0.7 percent from a year earlier and a decrease of 
> 2.5 percent from the 2000 Census.
> 
> According to the 2000 Census, Minneapolis's population was
> 382,618 residents, an increase of 3.8 percent from the 
> 368,383 residents in 1990. During the previous decade, the 
> city's population had decreased by 0.7 percent from 370,951 
> residents in 1980.
,,,,<snip>....

.................................
Sheldon Mains
Seward Neighborhood, Minneapolis, Minnesota 


REMINDERS:
1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If 
you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list.

2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait.

For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html
For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract
________________________________

Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn 
E-Democracy
Post messages to: mailto:[email protected]
Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls

Reply via email to