Just because the industry may be engaging in "typical arguments and overwrought warnings of terrible consequences that come from any industry when legislation is proposed to curb that industry's pollution" doesn't invalidate Dyna's points, nor mean that any substantive remedies will result from the trucks not idling. They are an extremely small problem compared to the buses (they spew a buttload of fumes, idling or not, and if you think I'm kidding, be in the car next to the exhaust pipe of one of those beasts), firetrucks, city vehicles, and utility trucks and all the other vehicles that will be exempted whose engines will be required to idle so those vehicles can get their jobs done. (I love exemptions to "pollution" ordinances. It's as if only certain vehicles, the ones that are "bad" like commericial vehicles, pollute, and buses, which are "good" vehicles, don't.)
But I don't think the ordinance was "proposed to curb that industry's pollution." That's a nice, pretty, trendy way to label it for sale to whoever will buy it. I think the ordinance as proposed is not about pollution at all......it is, quite simply, because the neighbors don't like the trucks, and had them banned. (Not unlike the smoking ban... that wasn't about the health of workers, it was about a subset of people that don't like smoke.... and imposition of will, but that's a different thread). Anyway, as a consequence, trucks will probably still be able to come into the city to unload their goods, but it will make it a heck of a lot less convenient for them to do so. Prices may go up. I hope they do. I hope truckers charge more, or they charge some sort of "Delivery to Minneapolis fee." It certainly shouldn't be a problem for those people who are "Happy to Pay for a Better Minnesota." Mike Thompson Windom ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Mpls] Council Member Schiff on idling and industrial jobs > > I'm sorry, but after you quoted Gary Schiff, I don't interpret him as saying truckers should get out of the City. He argued that the ordinance would solve certain pollution and noise problems by businesses investing in plug ins or truckers sleeping at truck stops. Neither alternative prevents truckers from driving into the City to deliver the various goods we consume. > I was originally swayed by Dyna Slyter's arguments into being against the ordinance. But now, all your arguments about truckers being forced to pay inflated prices as well as Dyna's arguments about spoiled milk from overheated trucks seems to me now like the typical arguments and overwrought warnings of terrible consequences that come from any industry when legislation is proposed to curb that industry's pollution. > Robert Halfhill Loring Park > > > http://halfhillviews.greatnow.com > > http://www.thepen.us/e-fraud.html > > REMINDERS: > 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. > > 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. > > For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html > For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract > ________________________________ > > Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy > Post messages to: mailto:[email protected] > Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls > > REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[email protected] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
