This is my last on this particular topic (sorry Doug; I really thought that I 
was through). 

Michael Atherton says:

"The problem is that Mr. Cross and others will try to use
this to discredit my position to maintain the status quo."

I suppose that I would be considered in the above quote under "others." As an 
anthropology major, I studied many cultures and find Atherton's rhetoric 
about them disturbing. I've posted on culture here before in a tongue and cheek 
contribution titled "Darwinian Views of Minneapolis," responding to posts 
titled 
"Republican Views of Minneapolis," but culture is pretty serious business to 
me. (Although I wrote it in a satiric piece, this definition of culture is 
pretty much how I view the phenomenon: "A city is an artifact of culture and 
DNA 
is the main genetic material of life; more broadly, one definition of culture 
taught to me not so long ago is information passed vertically and horizontally 
between generations of animals independent of genes, i.e., other than genetic 
information/DNA.") When I see the kind of unsupported dogma spouted about the 
features of various cultures, I become upset; this is mainly because I have 
learned that the features of cultures around the world are amazingly similar, 
almost universal, whether one is describing upper middle class "whites" in 
Minneapolis or Kung San bushmen in Africa. Everything one sees is variation on 
a 
theme with particular disturbing twists on very old themes popping up in what 
we like to think as our modern culture of democracy. We can do much better. At 
the risk of being barred from this list, I would say that Atherton's rhetoric 
typifies the worst sort of perversion of the democratic ideal in our culture. 
A more personal response might suggest the man does not know that about which 
he is talking, but far be it from me to do that in blatant disregard of the 
list rules.   

Many might find my own views on "race" uniquely disturbing--I don't really 
recognize the term as a useful concept in most contexts except ethnicity and 
the 
real cultural variation in the world, based on unique interactions of human 
beings with their environment over the period of our evolution--however, I find 
them quite comforting. In fact, in Minneapolis, I think that we are likely to 
see the betterment of our city if we all ignored the traditional concept of 
"race." 

Bill Kahn
Prospect Park
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