Mike Thompson asks a good question, he asks " Fine, Mr. Johnson......... but one question: who pays for 'grants and rebates'? You don't pick them from the grant and rebate garden."
It is true that there are some grants and rebates that are provided by various foundations and government bodies to promote and to get solar voltaics and wind power started. But, let us not forget about the subsidies for coal and petroleum. There is a coal plant in Northeast Minneapolis that generates 2.8cents per kilowatt/hour of hidden healthcare costs. That is quite a subsidy for the coal industry when you consider we are consider that we are currently paying 7.5894cents per kWh. Of course that subsidy is being paid for on the lungs of Minneapolis school children and the rest of the people of the metro area. And don't forget the subsidies that are provided for the petroleum industry. How much does it cost to maintain an army, navy and air force to keep the oil flowing out of Iraq and Kuwait? That's a subsidy isn't it? Peace, Dean Zimmermann Mpls City Council - Ward 6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] C: 612-388-1311 W: 612-673-2206 H: 612-724-3888 2200 Clinton Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55404 Surely the most important task for all of us is to leave behind a planet that is fit for our great grandchildren to live on. So all of our personal actions, as well as our political policies, must be tempered with an eye to long term sustainability, not short term profit or expediency. As we struggle to solve the day to day problems -- crime, jobs, budget shortfalls, homelessness, traffic congestion, and air quality, we will look to solutions that serve both our immediate needs and lay the foundation for the post-petroleum economy. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Thompson Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Mpls] Mercury Destroying our Bodies and Fish Fine, Mr. Johnson......... but one question: who pays for "grants and rebates"? You don't pick them from the grant and rebate garden. Mike Thompson Windom ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:15 PM Subject: [Mpls] Mercury Destroying our Bodies and Fish > Greg Reinhart is mistaken. Solar technology pays for itself in a few > years, > especially when we use grants and rebates and especially when energy > prices > will b skyrocketing as oil is now and especially with the new intertie > inverters and high efficiency modules that are now on the market. He is > probably > thinking what a system would have cost eight years ago when grid tie > technology > was not available and neither were grants and rebates. Solar energy like > wind > energy is now a no brainer, a great investment and most important it > doesn't > produce greenhouse gasses and mercury which will be devastating for > Minnesota > with its 11,000 lakes, rivers and streams. Minnesota could be a leader. > The > energy bill that was just passed is an abomination with windfalls going to > the oil and coal industry, the worst possible place it could go. > > Sincerely, Don Johnson _SolarHardware.com_ (http://solarhardware.com/) > 3808 > Grand Ave So. Minneapolis, MN 55409 (612) 824 1111 > REMINDERS: > 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at > http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, > contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the > list. > > 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. > > For state and national discussions see: > http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html > For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract > ________________________________ > > Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn > E-Democracy > Post messages to: mailto:[email protected] > Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls > > REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[email protected] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:[email protected] Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
