In reply to Doug Mann, I am not opposed to a publically owned (100% 
publically owned) since all the profits would go into the Minneapolis general 
fund.  But I am opposed to ANY stadium tax, whether tthe stadium is publically 
or privately owned, unless it passes in a referendum.  If the referendum is for 
a publically owned stadium, I will consider the particular proposal on its 
merits before deciding how to vote on it.
   I hope the Green Party insists on REAL public ownership before deciding what 
vote to urge on a referendum and does not let itself be satisfied with some 
phoney facade of public ownership or partial public ownership in which the bulk 
of the profits go to a private business.
   No socialism for the rich!  Also, no Robin Hood in reverse or stealing from 
the poor to give to the rich.
   Robert Halfhill   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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aaron klemz writes,
 
"I don't know for what reason Doug Mann didn't solicit GP endorsement, nor do 
I think that his signs are a big deal.  But it is more than clear that the GP 
has a strong position against state funding for a stadium, referendum or not. 
To wit (MNGP Platform, available at mngreens.org):" 

[Doug Mann]: The MN GP platform is one thing. The 5th district steering 
committee's stance toward the stadium proposal was quite different. The 
steering 
committee was for public financing of the stadium if there was a "public 
ownership" component. This is reflected in the press release pasted at the end 
of 
this message. 

The steering committee produced a draft resolution about the stadium, but the 
adoption of a stadium resolution (and discussion about how to fight the 
Stadium deal) has yet to be put on the agenda of a 5th district Green Party 
meeting, so far as I know. (I do pay attention to the meeting notices, agendas, 
meeting notes)  The local Green Party therefore does not have an official 
position 
that is binding on the leadership. Why?

The Green Party leadership has been divided on the stadium issue. Dean Z. and 
Natalie Johnson Lee took a firm stand against the stadium. Annie Young didn't 
want to reject a stadium deal out of hand.  The compromise they came up with 
was to say no to a publicly funded stadium unless it is publicly owned. As I 
see it, calling for "public ownership" is a ploy to get the Green Party engaged 
in a negotiating process. 

In my opinion, "No new stadium tax without a referendum" is really a stronger 
statement of opposition to the stadium than "No stadium tax" period (per the 
MN GP platform) because it addresses the issue of our right to vote on the 
imposition of a sales tax. A stadium tax has no chance of getting voter 
approval, 
which is why the Hennepin County Board is trying to get the tax imposed 
without a referedum. The 5th District Green Party has nothing to say about that!

It is also worth noting that the DFL saved a seat on the Park Board for Annie 
Young. The DFL only endorsed 2 candidates for 3 at-large positions. Annie 
attended the DFL convention and lobbied for that result, according to her own 
account of the DFL convention that was published on the local Green Party 
listserv.

GREEN PARTY LAUNCHES MINNEAPOLIS CAMPAIGN FOR MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND PARK 
BOARD [press release]
Minneapolis, MN - On the morning of Thursday, May 12, the candidates endorsed 
by the 5th Congressional District Green Party (5CDGP) launched what promises 
to be an exciting city campaign this year. At a press conference at 
Minneapolis City Hall, they took a stand on some important issues facing the 
people of 
Minneapolis, calling for:
>- No stadium paid with taxes unless we have a locally owned team...

-Doug Mann, King Field, 8th ward
Green Candidate for City Council, ward 8
-

    

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