Michael Atherton wrote: I'm getting terribly irritated by people who fail
to support their accusations by failing to quote what
others have said.  I made no presumptions of innocence or guilt.
I was making a point about the moral dangers of unconditional
loyalty.

I should stay out of this, and I realize George Lakoff's 15 minutes are up, but this exchange is a perfect illustration of his "strict father" versus "nurturant parent" metaphors in his book, Moral Politics.

Support is not the same as unconditional loyalty. Loyalty means standing by and saying nothing in the face of immoral or unethical behavior, because one expects to be rewarded in return. It is a characteristic of dogs, as well as successful members of both the mob and the Bush administration.

Support means believing that one (alleged) bad action does not make a bad person. It's what allows us to raise children, maintain family ties, and to sometimes live in our own glass houses.

Anyway, peace be with you, Dean and family and friends.

Becca Vargo Daggett
Seward

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