Since Mr. Dobson has repeated the statement (indeed in CAPS), I'll take the opportunity to vent a small pet peeve.
If memory serves me, the tobacco settlement was not $6 billion, it was $2.9 billion. The total payout was $6 billion, but over a substantial period of time. The present value of the settlement was $2.9 billion, which is the correct way to state it, unless you're trying to make people think your recovery was more super duper than it was. If twice as long had been negotiated for payout, it could have been a $15 or $20 billion payout. Now that truly would have been an impressive result! I'm not disputing Mr. Dobson's characterization of Mr. Ciresi; I don't know Mr. Ciresi and have no reason to doubt his general integrity and honesty. But one also might recall that when the substantial Miller, Ciresi legal fees (payable on invoice) became a subject of some public discussion, the "$6 billion" settlement was cited to justify them. Chuck Holtman Prospect Park Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:39:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Dann Dobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Mpls] WHAT NONSENSE! - It Looks Like Wellstone Was Assassinated To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], mpls@mnforum.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Excuse my language, "But what crap". For those who do not know, after the Wellstone plane crash, the Wellstone family and 3 staff members families were all represented by Mike Ciresi of Robins, Kaplan, Miller and Ciresi. I have known Mike for over 15 years and he is not only the best trial attorney I know of, bar none, but one of the most honest lawyers there is. Mike was instrumental in first breaking open the Dalkon Shield case against A.H. Robins in the 1980's. When Union Carbide killed over 5,000 people Bhopal India in the 1990's the Indian Government hired Ciresi to represent them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ciresi Finally, Mike conceived of the State of Minnesota litigation against the Tobaccoc industry that eventually netted the State of Minnesota $6 BILLION DOLLARS. .... Dann Dobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract ________________________________ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls