This discussion reminds me of a scene from 'Annie Hall', when a young Alvy Singer is taken to the doctor. His mother is upset because he's not doing his homework. Alvy is letting his homework go because he found out the universe is expanding, so what's the point? His mother whacks him on the head and asks, 'What is that your business? You're living here in Brooklyn. Brooklyn is not expanding'.

There is a vast difference between taking up symbolic, empty resolutions on how a local city council feels about a war vs. working locally on creative solutions to health and human services issues (and you provided great examples), that in turn might influence long-term state or national responses.

Do you think an anti-war resolution from the Minneapolis City Council would have influenced any of Martin Olav Sabo's votes in Congress? Probably not. If the city happened to be represented by somebody with a different political orientation, then it might have meant something. Our two US Senators represent fairly extreme opposite ends of the spectrum, and it's hard for me to imagine that an anti-war resolution from the city council would have influenced either of them.

For as well-intentioned as the anti-war actions by other cities might have been, I don't know that they influenced anybody's decision in Washington.

The intergovernmental relations committee (and the city's paid lobbying folk) are very important when it comes to setting bonding priorities, influencing LGA funding, etc. Those issues have a direct impact on the city's responsibilities.

I was talking with the mayor of Plymouth last week, who is running in a special election for a MN Senate seat. Plymouth has passed resolutions against stadium funding, because in the case of the Hennepin County/Twins proposal, it would have had an immediate and negative impact on the residents. I told her that the Minneapolis City council has taken up anti-war resolutions, and let's just say, the response was quite different.

The first part of my original post suggested that the way around this is to get very progressive people elected to office. And in response to David Shove, I'm not rich, and my vote isn't for sale.

Mark Hanson
Prospect Park

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: David Strand<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mark Hanson<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; mpls<mailto:[email protected]>
  Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Mpls] The scope of responsibility for a City Council or Mayor




--- Mark Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
  > In the meantime, I'll argue that resolutions about
  > national/international affairs have no place in the
  > City Council chambers.  It's a waste of time. If
  > individuals on the council have strong feelings
  > either way, they should exercise their First
  > Amendment rights like anybody else, and speak as
  > private citizens.  We're not paying people to sit in
  > City Hall offices and debate Washington DC policy
  > making.
  >
  > Mark Hanson
  > Prospect Park

  This is complete abrogation of responsibility.  The
  city has an intergovernmental relations committee for
  a reason and there is reason for the city to speak out
  on many issues that will impact the city and yes Mark,
  the wasteful war of choice in Iraq will have an impact
  for years to come on the ability of the federal
  government to prioritize needs of importance to the
  city due to the financial sinkhole it has created.  To
  the extent the shift in priorities necessitated by
  engaging a supposed "pre-emptive" war which is by
  definition a war of choice impacts the cities
  priorities and access to resources, it is the
  responbility of our city officials to speak up.


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