Dennis and Bobbie

I missed the point, I was thinking at a level beyond the bridge, which would be the CICS application program itself

at entry to CICS, could not that program read all the data, determine if it will fit in the commarea (if not switch to temp storage), then do a RETURN TRANID(....), and then the program that would run somewhere in the enterprise to process the data know from the commarea that it switched to temp storage

I don't rely on IBM system products to deliver solutions, but I would like them to not restrict my ability to be creative

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I suppose it (the bridge) could, but it doesn't.

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> Chris
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> we currently use a combination of COMMAREA and SHARED TEMP STORAGE in the Coupling facility
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> if the data exceeds the COMMAREA length, it cuts over to Temp Storage
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> why wouldn't MQ messages be able to exploit this technique
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> June,
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> >>>What would the determining factors be for using the MQ Adapter as
> opposed
> >>>to MQ Bridge with CICS?
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> The big one would probably be whether or not you are willing to able to
> embed the MQ verbs in your CICS program. With the adapter, you have use the
> MQ verbs in your CICS program; with the bridge, it is possible to invoke a
> DPL or ECI-complient program without change.
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> On the other hand, the bridge limits you to the amount of data you can fit
> into a COMMAREA, and requires that the CICS program conform to the DPL
> subset of the CICS API.
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