Hi, This was many moons ago when Windows 2000 Server first came out. We had to install MS SQL Server v6.5 before MSMQ would work. If I remember correctly, we had to install MS SQL Server before installing MSMQ server component.
All I really remember is that it was a whole lot of work for messaging on Windows only platform!! Regards, Roger Lacroix Capitalware Inc. http://www.capitalware.biz Quoting "Taylor, Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Roger > > I didn't find that when we deployed. What version of MSMQ was it that you > looked into? > > Neil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Lacroix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 13 April 2004 17:58 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Comparative study MQSeries, JMS, MSMQ > > > All, > > Several years ago I looked into this question, and at that time I found one > hidden cost for MSMQ that nobody talked about. MSMQ requires MS SQL > database. > MSMQ uses MS SQL to store / hold the messages (you cannot use Oracle or DB2). > > Therefore, if you were, say an Oracle shop, then you would be forced to buy > MS > SQL to use the 'FREE' MSMQ!!!! > > Sometimes apples don't compare very well to oranges!! :)) > > Regards, > Roger Lacroix > Capitalware Inc. > http://www.capitalware.biz > > > Quoting "Taylor, Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > In summary: > > > > MSMQ is a Microsoft specific product that comes bundled with various > flavours > > of Windows Server - from windows NT upwards I believe. Hence NT Server, > > Win2K Server and Win2003 Server. Here you get the "MSMQ" Server. You can > > run clients (dependent or independent) from other versions of the operating > > systems mentioned - such as Win2K pro. However there are a lot of > > restrictions to running an MSMQ network - the main one being you can ONLY > run > > on Windows machines. Further, you have to have certain Domain and Active > > Directory settings as well. I found MSMQ VERY complicated to set up - you > > have to set a whole list of stuff up in loads of places across the O/S. > One > > thing I did like however is that you have two sets of Q's - transacted and > > non-transacted. If you want MSMQ to talk to, say, MQSeries, you must > > purchase the MSMQ Bridge that is included in the MS Host Integration Server > > suite. Not easy to configure either. I'm not sure if there are bridges to > > other products? > > > > MQSeries is one of the original messaging and queuing systems. It has > broad > > platform coverage, is widely used in industries such as Finance for > critical > > systems. It has been around for getting on 10 years now. The business. > > > > JMS is a Java standard specification. So each vendor (or provider in JMS > > speak) implements the standard however they want. It is "free" if you use > > Sun's JMS provider that comes as part of the J2EE SDK. As long as it > > provides the services described in the JMS standard then it is JMS. The > > standard does not say anything about inter-communication between DIFFERENT > > JMS provider implmentations (that I know of). To achieve this you either > > have to write your own bridge or use a vendor supplied one - such as > > Weblogic's MQ Bridge. JMS can only be used by a calling java application. > > The benefit is at the application level - swap out JMS providers at will if > > you externalise the provider url etc. JMS is not a way to link across many > > different jms providers domains! > > > > MQSeries supports a large number of different languages as well as a large > > number of different platforms so in my opinion beats JMS, which in turn > beats > > MSMQ. MSMQ is likely the cheapest option for a homogenous envioronment if > > you already have an MS Windows Server estate. Followed by JMS which most > > companies would want to buy from a vendor and gain some kind of support > etc. > > And MQSeries is the big daddy where cost is concerned. But then again, it > is > > the rolls-royce of messaging. > > > > Neil > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Christopher Warneke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 30 March 2004 16:25 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Comparative study MQSeries, JMS, MSMQ > > > > > > Krishan > > There is a book - Advanced Messaging Applications with > > MSMQ and MQSeries by Rhys Lewis : ISBN.0-7897-2023-X. > > This will give you some ammunition. > > Chris > > --- Mike Kenny - CPX Mngd Services > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As far as I know > > > > > > MSMQ supports amximum message size of 4Mb > > > MQ Series is not very strong on pub/sub > > > JMS, as stated below, is only an API specification. > > > But there are many JMS compliant messaging > > > providers, two that you might look at are JBoss and > > > openjms, both open source projects > > > > > > MQ Series offers some support for JMS, but I do not > > > know whether this covers the full API - I do not > > > know how one would support pub/sub?????? > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Wyatt, T. Rob > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Mon 3/29/2004 8:34 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Cc: > > > Subject: Re: Comparative study MQSeries, JMS, MSMQ > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan, > > > > > > These are not directly comparable. Both Websphere > > > MQ and MSMQ actually > > > transport messages. JMS, on the other hand, is > > > simply an API which requires > > > an underlying message mover such as the other two. > > > > > > -- T.Rob > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Krishan Agarwal > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 12:21 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Comparative study MQSeries, JMS, MSMQ > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am doing a comparative study of features and > > > performance between > > > MQSeries, JMS and MSMQ... will be grateful if > > > somebody could pass some docs > > > or data they have.. or specify the place where i > > > could get it.. > > > > > > cheers > > > krishan > > > > > > Instructions for managing your mailing list > > > subscription are provided in > > > the Listserv General Users Guide available at > > > http://www.lsoft.com > > > Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! 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