Wow.  George, that would be great if you could do that; I would really
appreciate it!

Thanks,
ray




-----Original Message-----
From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of George
Shedlock
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is there a way to do this?


Ray,

I have a trigger monitor program that will invoke natural programs. If
you are interested, I can sanitize the program and send it to you.

George

Kinzler, Raymond C wrote:
> I agree this is a case where I should be kicking off a NATURAL program
> but...I have no idea how to do it!  What do I need to do to have the
trigger
> queue run a NATURAL program?  Don't I need to get into the NATURAL
> environment?
>
> This is probably a really east thing to do but I am just green--especially
> at MQ.  All I know about MQ is what I read here and one (old!) manual I
> have...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Miller,
> Dennis
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 1:47 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Is there a way to do this?
>
>
> This is a design where you want your SIL to run in Natural, not COBOL.
> In other words:
>    1. triggered transaction invokes natural program
>    2. natural program (SIL) processes queue, looping unitl no more
> messages
>    3. for each request (in the simple case, a single message), natural
> program invokes a service program to satisfy the request.
>    4. If parallelism is required to get enough throughput, the natural
> SIL spawns more instances of itself by "echoing" the original trigger
> message back to the initq.
>
> Regards
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kinzler, Raymond C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 4:14 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Is there a way to do this?
>
>
> Hello,
>
> We have an application on the web that uses MQ Series to maintain our
> NATURAL/ADABAS application on the mainframe.
>
> We currently have a trigger queue on the mainframe that executes a CICS
> transaction that kicks off a COBOL program that logs into NATURAL,
> passes data to the stack, and kicks off a NATURAL program.
>
> The COBOL program is such that it has to logon and logoff of NATURAL for
> every transaction.  This is a heavily used system and we feel the
> excessive logons/logoffs are causing a bottleneck of sorts.  And there
> is a business requirement that a response be received on the web side
> within 30 elapsed seconds.  We are missing this goal on occasion and
> would like to make some improvements.
>
> The user id/password for each of these transactions is ALWAYS the
> same--no matter what user submits the transaction.  Because this is the
> case, we thought there may be a way to always be logged on and, thus,
> eliminate excessive logons/logoffs.
>
> We found that there were over 75,000 logons/logoffs via the CICS
> transaction this past Monday.  We also experienced a ton of  slowdowns
> (for a multitude of reasons including the fact that we are reaching the
> upper limits of the current box).  We will be getting a new box with
> loads of horsepower within four months but we need to see if we can
> improve performance between now and then.
>
> Any suggestions are welcome!!
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Raymond C. Kinzler, Jr.
> ADABAS DBA
> Eaton Electrical
> Moon Township, PA 15108
> Tel: 412-893-4463  (Adnet 227-4463)
> Fax: 412-893-2156
> Cell: 412-716-3368
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