Peter, Isn't the listener usually started when the queue manager is started (and uses the effective userid)?
"Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: MQSeries List <[email protected]> 08/20/2007 09:54 AM Please respond to MQSeries List <[email protected]> To [email protected] cc Subject Re: dspmqrte tracing tool "however on queue manager to queue manager channels a blank MCA user Id will cause the user Id in the message to be used, your Windows user." If the RCVR Channel has its Put Authority attribute set to "Context". If its set to Default, then it will use the ID used to start the Listener. IMHO, using Put Authority = Context is useless if security is the reason you turned it on. Its trivial for someone on the sending side to send messages as mqm and do whatever they want on your receiving system. Meanwhile you go nuts trying keep all the valid IDs from the other system authorized on your server for nothing. Peter -----Original Message----- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David McCann Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: dspmqrte tracing tool Hi Raymond, I'm glad you're getting somewhere. One of my colleagues indicates that if a client flows a blank user Id, then the client will run with the authority of the client channel, however on queue manager to queue manager channels a blank MCA user Id will cause the user Id in the message to be used, your Windows user. Interestingly, if this was the queue manager set up you were intending to use then it's shown that the security settings weren't quite right :) Maybe dspmqrte was a useful tool in this case, even if it was painful to get to the reason for failure... Regards, David McCann WebSphere MQ Development IBM Hursley >From: "Hond de, R (Raymond)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: MQSeries List <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: dspmqrte tracing tool >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:34:31 +0200 > > >David, > >I finally found the problem although I don't understand. >The only difference with the succesful trace was the OS > >Succesful: unix -> unix >Failed: windows -> unix > >By the time I was really desperate I decided to start a trace on the >receiving QM (linux box) In the trace I noticed that my windows logon >id was used for authorization. >After I created my windows id on the linux box and dropped the id in >the mqm group for the time being, I was able to trace the whole route. > >Strange part in my opinion is that I expected that the mqm user should >be validated because the MCA field of the receive channel on the linux >box is empty. Is that a wrong assumption? > >Regards, > >Raymond > >-----Original Message----- >From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of David McCann >Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 12:53 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: dspmqrte tracing tool > >OK, so you're sure that some channel is servicing that xmitq? > >If so, have you tried checking the DLQ on the queue manager the message >should have been sent to? That might give an indication of whether the >activity report couldn't get back to the ReplyToQ for some reason. You >might find it easier to accumulate the information in that case and >collect it all at the end. > >Let me know how you get on. It's been a while since I looked at the >trace route stuff, so I'm probably a bit rusty :) > >Cheers, > >David McCann >WebSphere MQ Development >IBM Hursley > > > >From: "Hond de, R (Raymond)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: MQSeries List <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: dspmqrte tracing tool > >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:01:01 +0200 > > > > > >Hi David, > > > >I already did found your article on the internet last week. And it > >was very helpful to me...but...I encountered the following problem. > > > >First I ran the following command and got a succesful response: > > > >/opt/mqm/bin/dspmqrte -m RITLMB -q OLI.SA > >AMQ8653: DSPMQRTE command started with options '-m RITLMB -q OLI.SA'. > >AMQ8659: DSPMQRTE command successfully put a message on queue > >'RITEDPAT1', queue manager 'RITLMB'. > >AMQ8674: DSPMQRTE command is now waiting for information to display. > >AMQ8666: Queue 'RITEDPAT1' on queue manager 'RITLMB'. > >AMQ8666: Queue 'OLI.SA' on queue manager 'RITEDPAT1'. > >AMQ8652: DSPMQRTE command has finished. > > > >If I run the same command on another box I get: > > > > /opt/mqm/bin/dspmqrte -m RITLMS -q LMS_INTEL.RECON_2.AQ > >AMQ8653: DSPMQRTE command started with options '-m RITLMS -q > >LMS_INTEL.RECON_2.AQ'. > >AMQ8659: DSPMQRTE command successfully put a message on queue > >'RITINTM', queue manager 'RITLMS'. > >AMQ8674: DSPMQRTE command is now waiting for information to display. > >AMQ8666: Queue 'RITINTM' on queue manager 'RITLMS'. > > > >For some reason I get stucked on the transmit queue of the sending QM > > > >As far as I can see all settings are the same (ROUTEREC(MSG) > >ACTIVREC(MSG)) And all channels are there. > > > >Any idea? > > > >Thanks for your reply, > > > >Raymond de Hond > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >Behalf Of David McCann > >Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:11 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: dspmqrte tracing tool > > > >Hi Raymond, > > > >Hopefully, with some good experience behind you, you will find > >dspmqrte > > >to be worth while. You may find my developerWorks article about the > >tool helpful? > > > >http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarticles/0510 > >_m > >c > >cann/0510_mccann.html > > > >What happened when you ran dspmqrte? What information was returned? > > > >David McCann > >WebSphere MQ Development > >IBM Hursley > > > > > > > > >From: "Hond de, R (Raymond)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: MQSeries List <[email protected]> > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: dspmqrte tracing tool > > >Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:07:19 +0200 > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > >Last week I tried to use the dspmqrte tracing tool. 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