Hi list, First, I will thank you for MSEspice. This is the best GUI for ngspice I tested so far.
Following a discussion on the ngspice list, I installed msespice from the git. The commit that add a prefix to the MSEspice internal functions in order to minimise name clashes work fine here. The first project I made with msespice is joined. It draw the characteristic curves for a triode in 2 plots: the first with Ia=f(Ua) for different Ug and the power hyperbola, the second one with Ia=f(Ug) for 2 different Ua. Each curves of them is a series of curves, and I was a little bit confused on how to get it. With plain ngspice, I put the following section and it work: .control DC VA 0.001 375 0.1 VG1 -4 0 0.5 plot -i(VA) 1/v(2) ylimit 0 0.005 xlimit 0 375 xdelta 25 xlabel Va ylabel Ia ; Ia=f(Ua) DC VG1 -4 0 0.001 VA 100 250 150 plot -i(VA) ylimit 0 0.006 xlimit -4 0 xlabel Ug ylabel Ia ; Ia=f(Ug) .endc It is just to put 2 DC sources into the same DC statement and ngspice figure out what to do. With msespice, I first begun to put the 2 DC sources into Plots -> Run parameters, but I doesn't gave me what I expected. The 2 sources was stepped concurrently and the result was a huge dark area in the plot. After trying different things, I removed the second source and added it into Plots -> Stepping, and now the result is correct. But I am not sure if it is the best way to archive this result. Also, I didn't find a way to add trace labels. As example, on the Ia=f(Ug) curves for Ua= 100V and Ua = 250V, it would be great to have labels for 100V and 250V near the respective curves. Or some kind of way to know, by looking at the curve, what their simulation condition is. It can be labels outside of the grids with different colours to differentiate the curves, but I would prefer labels near the curves in that case, they are all the same characteristic, just at different conditions. And we can already chose different colours for different characteristics. Also, for my focus policy issue, I try the --NOZORDERHANDLING command line option, It is much better than before, but I still doesn't like, when I popup a menu, that the window come into the foreground. But I can live with it, the most annoying part of that issue is gone with --NOZORDERHANDLING. Maybe with some time I will get used to it. If you want to test it, my desktop is fvwm-crystal, and you can get it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/fvwm-crystal/?source=navbar or from its svn: http://sourceforge.net/p/fvwm-crystal/code/HEAD/tree/ Among other things, it offer the 4 basic focus policies (click or move to focus combined with with or without raise), and beside for testing, I only use the without raise policies. To raise and unraise windows, you can use the mouse on the whole title bar of a window, or KP_0 and KP_. You can also toggle windows in full screen with Alt+KP_*, as example a msespice charts window, and it was impossible to me, without --NOZORDERHANDLING, to have it into the foreground without to close some other msespice window, which insisted to be on the foreground. But now that's working fine thank to --NOZORDERHANDLING. You will need fvwm-2.6.5 or cvs, python 2.7 (>=2.2 in fact), bash, and a few other utilities if you want all the functionalities. I recommend the svn, you will get the last fixes and new functions, and it is a few bashisms fixes that can be annoying on Debian and other distributions using dash as default shell (all are fixed, but not all have been released). Cheers, Dominique
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