Hi all,
The Bazaar code has been away for over a week now so I have turned off
my automatic package building for now. I do not have packages for karmic
as I did not know the state of the source code. What did happen to the
code in Bazaar?
I am still working on packaging but at the same time I am trying to
understand some of the internals so I can better understand how the
cross compiler works.
Adam Horden
marco_sp wrote:
Hi Adam and everybody else,
Yes Adam I noted your efforts. I really appreciate the works and hope new
packages will follow. If I could provide practical help I would, but my
linux knowledge is too limited.
As far as my understanding goes most of the compilation problems are
caused by dependencies and interfaces with out-of-project code like the
kernel, bin-utils, gcc, and the secret libhil.so / msp430.dll code. I
always wondered why all these interfaces are needed (and why hacks around
the TI secret code were not already included ;-) ).
So I really hope that the mspgcc experts like Chris and others, support
Adam in the adventure. Many would benefit and it would keep mspgcc popular
or (most probably) attract many new users.
Cheers,
Marco
Hi All,
First off sorry if this sounds a little harsh, I am just trying to sort
out the packages I created over the last six months.
You might have or have not noticed that I have spent a considerable
amount of time creating Ubuntu packages for mspgcc to try and give some
thing back. I have asked here for advice regarding the state of the
source code but not had a response telling me exactly what I need to
know to continue building packages. Its frustrating for me as I am
trying to get more users to use mspgcc as well as make it easier for
people to install the cross compiler. I use the cross compiler but
without me having to dig deep into the source code and the internals of
binutils, gcc, libc, gdb I would rather get the information I required
direct from one of the developers. Is there a developer or advanced user
who is willing to help me at this stage to get working Karmic packages?
At the moment there is no support for Karmic as they dropped support for
gcc3-4. I found the code in Bazaar and for the last few weeks tested
this on a Karmic system until last night when the Bazaar resporatory
disappered and taking down my build system with it. I make automatic
builds each day to test the qualtity of code. So what is the state of
the source code in Bazaar? and where did it go?
Now I asked for advice if this code in Bazaar would be ready for
packaging but never got a reply. I also asked if it was possible to sort
out a release system and Rob Spanton agreed on this but nothing moved
forward. As a packager it gives me a headache tracking my own revision
numbers to a revision in Bazaar or CVS.
People are using my packages and I can support the packages, but without
help from the developers I can only do so much. I did not develop the
cross compiler so when finding and fixing bugs in my packages I tend to
see if it exists when I compiler the tool chain from source in a virtual
machine or if its something wrong with my package.
At the moment my packages are rebuilt each day, and I am hoping the
patches I generate automatically will be used across all packages not
just for Ubuntu so until we get a version number all the packages should
contain the same code for a version number / revision.
There are commits that break things from time to time so building them
each day is a bad idea. We need a release schedule. I have been there
with my packages and it requires human intervention as I have them
automatically built but for testing I have to update my development
machines packages versions then test them to ensure nothing broke before
uploading them to Launchpad.
So I am thinking that I will drop the packages soon as there is too many
unanswered questions. I do not mind spending the time it just seems that
there needs to be more documentation and non of the developers answered
any of my questions when I posted them to the list. There is no point
there been broken packages because I do not get the information I
required to improve and release new version of the packages. It also
causes users some headaches as people install a broken cross compiler.
The documentation is poor. I was (still will do) going to do a new
website, with packages, source packages, install documentation so every
thing would be up to date and you would not have to spend hours trying
to crawl through mailing list archives to get the information I required
as well as I would try to push new devices were possible.
So where do I go from here is there any one willing to spend some time
via email going over the current state of the project with me? So we can
get these packages up to date with the correct source code and support
as many devices as possible. And try to get all the patches into one
place.
Thanks again,
Adam
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