On 08/07/13 03:28, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> On 07/05/2013 11:24 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
>> Kudos to Peter Bigot for maintaining MSP430 toolchain for so long and
>> for getting it to the level of support that it has today. Kudos also
>> to RedHat people like Brendan Conoboy for committing to  ongoing
>> support.
>>
>> Having said that, could I suggest some public or private coordination
>> between the two teams?  Peter has extensive knowledge of this
>> toolchain and I'm sure that anyone working in this area would benefit
>> from his advice---but I have a sense that he is not involved with
>> whatever is happening at RedHat. In the interest of the MSP430
>> community, could you guys brief each other on your plans and such? I
>> have a feeling that this is something doable via a fairly short phone
>> conversation.
> 
> Peter and I had a nice chat early on, but out of necessity we did the 
> port without his considerable expertise.  I think gcc is just about 
> ready to be checked in, at which point the upstream sources will be 
> complete and available for everybody to use without special patching. 
> Once that completes, I will send a note, but also: I would like to 
> encourage everybody who wants to contribute to the new tools to submit 
> their patches upstream: This makes sure every future release is the best 
> release ever.
> 
>> I do know that Brendan super busy because of his involvement with the
>> Fedora/Redhat ARM project, which is booming now, what with it becoming
>> an official Fedora architecture and with the buzz and activity around
>> Beaglebone Black---nevertheless, I hope something could be done re.
>> MSP430 in the short term.
> 
> Fedora-ARM is a demanding mistress :-)  Fortunately the engineers doing 
> the real work on the MSP 430 GNU tools can give it much more attention: 
> Kevin Buettner, DJ Delorie, and Nick Clifton.  Hopefully TI will have an 
> update of their own in the near future.  Cheers,
> 

Do you know how this is going to work?  Will TI release packages with
binary builds of the toolchain (including libraries) for Windows and
Linux?  Will they provide a collection of patches against the main gcc
and library releases?  Will they integrate gcc into Code Composer Studio?

As a cross-platform user, I would like to be able to get ready-packaged
bundles for Linux (32-bit and 64-bit, of preference) and Windows that
contain the same compiler and library snapshot, so that I can say "this
project is built using the 20130708 release" and get the same build on
all platforms.  Such snapshots should include pre-built binaries
(especially for Windows), source (including basic instructions such as
lists of patches), libraries and headers.

For many users, integration into Code Composer would be a big benefit too.

What I would hate to see is a Microchip-style gcc, where you can pay
them lots of money to use the free compiler developed by other people,
or you are on your own regarding building the compiler, finding
libraries, writing header files, etc.  I don't expect that to happen
here - it doesn't sound like TI and it certainly doesn't sound like
Redhat - but legally it is possible.

Anyway, I am looking forward to this new msp430 gcc port.  Peter (and
others before him) have done a fantastic job, but he has earned a rest
and having TI and Redhat behind the port opens up many possibilities.


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