I too question the two primaries, especially with Configuration Manager 2012, 
since a Primary can support 100,000 clients. What are your client numbers? Here 
some more information for capacity: 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg682077.aspx.

And if you have a true CAS in your environment, it will not directly manage 
clients. Only the child primaries will manage the clients directly. It's a 
tough argument for more primary sites in 2012: 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg712681.aspx#BKMK_ChoosePriimary
Jerry

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Bruce Hethcote
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: Overlapping Boundries

To add to Todd's comment, a site is no longer a security boundary in a 
multi-level CM12 hierarchy and things like collections become "global data".

Here's some good info (including what is and what is not) on global data:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/03/06/data-replication-in-system-center-2012-configuration-manager.aspx

CM12 does support overlapping boundaries for content 
location<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg712679.aspx#BKMK_BoundaryOverlap>,
 but I think when it comes to overlap and site assignment, you'd end up with 
some undesired results

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 4:08 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: Overlapping Boundries

everything you make on one site goes over to the other site and vice versa.
They are all going to be members of the same "Site" no matter what once they 
are joined to a CAS. All the same site code.

At least that is my understanding.

What you are doing is not going to accomplish any discernible goal unless you 
have 500 thousand machines or something.

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Pappin, Nick 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
There is a size component to the decision to have multiple primaries. I believe 
that we could potentially use a RBA system however it was decided not to go 
that way for the sake of scaling the system in place. However I am still having 
trouble finding a good resource for having two Primary Sites Boundaries that 
could potentially overlap either accidentally or by design. Has anyone tried 
this?

Nick

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of Dzikowski, Michael
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:03 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Overlapping Boundries

Why two primaries?  Did you have a technical reason to place two sites (size, 
geo-location, etc.)?  Could you get by with RBA?

Mike D-



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pappin, Nick
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:53 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] Overlapping Boundries

Hi All,
    I have a beginners question. We have two SCCM primary sites that are both 
connected to a CAS server. Both primary sites are for different business units 
and but all of the IP addresses of the machines that they are to manage are 
intermingled quite badly. As such I cannot use sites or subnets to create a 
boundary. And most of the time to use a range it will have to be a range of one 
IP. So my question is can we overlap the boundaries for the two primary sites. 
Then use group policy to push the SCCM client onto the machines, having the 
group policies, which will be linked to two different non-overlapping OU's, 
decide which primary site the computer will be a member of? We would not be 
doing any automated client deployment from the SCCM servers themselves. Can 
this be done or is there something that I am missing?

Nick Pappin







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