And so I was wrong. :-(

Typos courtesy of Apple. Sent from my iOS device.

On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:51 AM, "Brian Mason" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

You can use an NLB for SUPs still by setting the default SUP using the SDK.  
We're not doing that; we're going with a shared DB simply because it served us 
so well in CM07.

There is simply no need for an NLB for MPs since MPs rotate so nicely now.  
Watch the ClientLocation.log and you'll see that it's reassigning MPs routinely 
to balance the load.

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Morrison
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 10:52 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: Sizing Question

My understanding is that NLB is no longer supported for MPs in 2012. You can 
now just add up to 10 additional MPs per site to handle the traffic. What I saw 
Brian Mason talk about at MMS was still using NLBs for SUP. But I think I 
remember him saying it had to be setup via CLI. It was the MVP session for 
ConfigMgr that he talked about this.

Here is the support info from Technet about MPs and load balancers:


Site System Roles
The following site systems roles are removed:

•      The reporting point. All reports are generated by the reporting services 
point.

•      The PXE service point. This functionality is moved to the distribution 
point.

•      The server locator point. This functionality is moved to the management 
point.

•      The branch distribution point. Distribution points can be installed on 
servers or workstations that are in an Active Directory domain. The 
functionality of the branch distribution point is now a BranchCache setting for 
an application deployment type and the package deployment.
In addition, network load balanced (NLB) management points are no longer 
supported and this configuration is removed from the management point component 
properties. Instead, this functionality is automatically provided when you 
install more than one management point in the site.


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 10:40 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Sizing Question

I’ve heard Brain Mason talk about using them. He may be able to offer advice on 
this.


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Crown, David T. (DTI)
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 10:18 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Sizing Question

The load balancers are already in production for a number of other core 
functions. They’re there if I want to use them.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 10:04
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Sizing Question

For larger environments it’s not a bad idea actually.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dzikowski, Michael
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 8:37 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Sizing Question

One thing I see is, you really don’t need the load balancers for your MP roles 
in ConfigMgr 2012.


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Crown, David T. (DTI)
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 9:33 AM
To: '[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>'
Subject: [mssms] Sizing Question

I know it being Monday and all, I’m wondering if you find folks wouldn’t mind 
double checking my sizing. I changed roles with my employer, and the scale of 
the configmgr environment I’m used to supporting has grown quite a bit.
I’m looking to migrate about 15K, scaling to a potential of 40K, clients from a 
2007 and a 2012 (with a CAS for political reasons) to a single 2012 site. The 
plan is to use a box with 16 cores and 48GB (the plan is get it to 96) of ram 
with SQL on box and no other roles. For the backing disks, I was looking at 
three Fibre Channel Luns. One 300~500 gig disk on a high performance lun that 
can sustain 20K IOPS for the site directory and sql, one 2TB lun on some lower 
preforming storage for  package source and the content library, and a third lun 
in the same lower performance tier (~1TB) for my backups.

I plan on using two to four MP’s as vm’s behind a load balancer, two 
unprotected DP’s for failback, and one SUP. As the environment is deployed, I 
plan on bringing in protected DP’s, and for my larger sites (500 to 1000 
users), I plan on sticking a secondary at the site.

So my question is does my proposed environment look like it could support the 
number of clients I’ll be managing?

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