but you are not adding cool new features and such any more. it is the end
of an era. I am glad I got to experience it.

I recall the first BDD... 50 thousand pages of what you might be able to do
if you were so inclined. :-)
Now anyone can do it. That is about 85% you helping us. The other 15% would
be Johan

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Michael Niehaus <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  The functionality provided by MDT on top of ConfigMgr is expected to be
> merged into ConfigMgr over time.  You are starting to see that in ConfigMgr
> 2012 R2 with a few of the new task sequence actions.  I would expect that
> transition to take several years.  (Heck, we’ve been talking about doing it
> for several years already, so that was always the plan J)****
>
> ** **
>
> The functionality provided by MDT Lite Touch for image creation and
> deployment will be around for a long time as well, as Microsoft will always
> provide a “free” option for deploying our OSes.  Killing it off wouldn’t be
> in our best interests J****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> -Michael****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Marcum, John
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:27 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OSD vs. MDT -- Let the debate begin (again)****
>
> ** **
>
> Will there come a time in the near future where there is no such thing as
> stand-alone MDT? My understanding is that the product teams were merged,
> does that indicate that the products will also merge into one?****
>
>  ****
>   *
> ------------------------------
> *
>
> *John Marcum*
> *Sr. Desktop Architect*****
>
> *Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP*****
>   ------------------------------
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Michael Niehaus
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:22 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OSD vs. MDT -- Let the debate begin (again)****
>
>  ****
>
> I’d reply back with a longer reply if I weren’t so tired.  So you’ll get
> the abridged version:****
>
>  ****
>
> Every customer has different requirements.  For most, using MDT Lite Touch
> for image creation is easiest (although a lot of that is tied to many of
> the “waste of time” customizations made to the images being created).  You
> can then use either MDT or ConfigMgr to deploy.  For many customers, there
> are scenarios where both could make sense.  There is no “one size fits all”
> answer.  I see customers with 500 seats using ConfigMgr completely; I see
> customers with 400,000 seats using only MDT.****
>
>  ****
>
> If you want to use ConfigMgr for everything in every scenario, feel free.
> If you want to use MDT with ConfigMgr to help make that easier, feel free.
> (If you don’t, I’ll try not to hold it against you J)  If you want to use
> MDT without ConfigMgr, feel free.****
>
>  ****
>
> Just never ask me about doing something in ConfigMgr that MDT already does…
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> Thanks,****
>
> -Michael****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Todd Hemsell
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:06 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] OSD vs. MDT -- Let the debate begin (again)****
>
>  ****
>
> amen brutha!****
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Jason Sandys <[email protected]> wrote:****
>
>  Eww yuck (IMO). This requires duplication of effort, duplication of
> configuration, and duplication of resources. ****
>
>  ****
>
> J****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Spinelli, Robert J
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:55 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OSD vs. MDT -- Let the debate begin (again)****
>
>  ****
>
> Thanks, that’s a great point.****
>
>  ****
>
> Thank you.****
>
>  ****
>
> Robert Spinelli | CTS | GTI | 575 Washington Boulevard, Jersey City, NJ,
> 07310, United States| T: +1.201.595.6820 | C: +1.917.538.6192 |
> [email protected]****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *[email protected]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:57 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OSD vs. MDT -- Let the debate begin (again)****
>
>  ****
>
> No matter what, I would always use a stand-alone mdt share for my golden
> image creation.****
>
> It just makes things easier.****
>
>  ****
>
> *Christopher Catlett*****
>
> Consultant | Detroit****
>
> Office 248-876-9738 |Fax 877.406.9647 ****
>
>  ****
>
> *Sogeti USA*****
>
> 26957 Northwestern Highway, Suite 130, Southfield, MI 48033-8456****
>
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>
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>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Spinelli, Robert J
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:53 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OSD vs. MDT -- Let the debate begin (again)****
>
>  ****
>
> This is what we’re leaning toward, 1st pass OSD and if that doesn’t do it
> for use then bring MDT into the mix.  I would rather use one product to
> keep it simple, but might not be able to do that.****
>
>  ****
>
> Thank you.****
>
>  ****
>
> Robert Spinelli | CTS | GTI | 575 Washington Boulevard, Jersey City, NJ,
> 07310, United States| T: +1.201.595.6820 | C: +1.917.538.6192 |
> [email protected]****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Dzikowski, Michael
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:45 PM
> *To:* '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] OSD vs. MDT -- Let the debate begin (again)****
>
>  ****
>
> If I have ConfigMgr, I rather use that to do my OS deployments and I can
> integrate MDT and still have access to MDT variables ,etc.
>
>
> Sent with Good (www.good.com)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From: *Spinelli, Robert J [[email protected]]
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:33 AM Central Standard Time
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Subject: *[mssms] OSD vs. MDT -- Let the debate begin (again)****
>
> Now that SCCM 2012 R2 is introducing some new variables and new task
> sequence steps (ex: Set Dynamic Variables) would you go with OSD over MDT?
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> One of the main reasons we were going to go with MDT was because of the
> issue of not being able to build a machine in an untrusted forest:****
>
>  ****
>
>
> http://blog.coretech.dk/kea/multi-forest-support-in-configmgr-2012-part-iithere-can-be-only-oneor/
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> This has been resolved in R2 with the ability to use multiple network
> accounts, so were now leaning back toward using OSD.****
>
>  ****
>
> I was hoping for some input as OSD/MDT has always been my weakest skill.**
> **
>
>  ****
>
> Thank you.****
>
>  ****
>
> Robert Spinelli | CTS | GTI | 575 Washington Boulevard, Jersey City, NJ,
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