When I tried it the issue seemed to be that the limiting collection had to update, then the collection where the machine was added had to update. This took so long that the machine would time out waiting for policies.
________________________________ John Marcum Sr. Desktop Architect Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [mssms] ConfigMgr 2012 meets tablets - The case of the "Unknown" If you have a CAS, it takes approximately 5-15 minutes because it has to replicate down and back up from your primaries. A huge pain for any immediate updates needed for collections. Daniel Ratliff From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> On Behalf Of Craig Andrew (OIZ) Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 10:45 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: AW: [mssms] ConfigMgr 2012 meets tablets - The case of the "Unknown" Works well for me. What problems have you encountered? Von: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Im Auftrag von Marcum, John Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. September 2013 16:40 An: '[email protected]' Betreff: RE: [mssms] ConfigMgr 2012 meets tablets - The case of the "Unknown" Adding machines on the fly to collections for OSD in 2012 doesn't work well ________________________________ John Marcum Sr. Desktop Architect Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> On Behalf Of Craig Andrew (OIZ) Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:33 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: AW: [mssms] ConfigMgr 2012 meets tablets - The case of the "Unknown" You could use a pre-execution staging hook, build a script into the hook that queries the mac address and the computer manufacturer/model. Then use the hook to pull the machine into a collection. Then it will receive an advertisement. You can use a similar step at the end of the ts to remove the machine from the collection. Von: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Im Auftrag von Koster, Maik Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. September 2013 16:26 An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Betreff: RE: [mssms] ConfigMgr 2012 meets tablets - The case of the "Unknown" It has to be executed with the dongle/Docking station detached. So you would need to remember what dongle/docking station was used, check if it's still connected and if so re-schedule. Regards Maik Koster Cameron Flow Control Technology GmbH - Sitz der Gesellschaft: Celle - Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Lüneburg HRB 204184 - Geschäftsführung: Cheryl Roberts, Grace Holmes From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> On Behalf Of Hedges, Dustin Sent: Dienstag, 3. September 2013 16:07 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: [mssms] ConfigMgr 2012 meets tablets - The case of the "Unknown" What about leveraging the _SMSTSPostAction Variable (ConfigMgr 2012 SP1)? Or even setting a RunOnce Registry setting to execute a script with those commands? Dustin Hedges Sr. Systems Engineer eBay Inc. [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ebayinc.com [cid:[email protected]] From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ryan Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:38 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [mssms] ConfigMgr 2012 meets tablets - The case of the "Unknown" Three options come to mind... First off, you could delete any records that show up in the collection with those MAC addresses. You'd lose the imaging information on the computer though, so it probably isn't the best idea. Another option is changing the MAC address in WinPE... Change it before the TS runs and have it automatically generated based on the wifi MAC. I'm not sure if that will fool ConfigMgr into thinking it is a different device. Another thought is to add 802.11x support and just use the dongle to boot into WinPE... http://blogs.technet.com/b/deploymentguys/archive/2010/01/15/added-support-for-802-1x-in-windows-pe.aspx You'll need a very stable WiFi network for this. On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Mattias Benninge <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Would it be possible to use "devcon" to eject the USB-dongle and then force a full HW-Inventory as the last steps of an TS? I do not know what happens to the TS if the connections drops from the dongle and moves over to Wifi. If that makes the TS fail it wont work. This was just an wild idea, not sure it will work in real life since i have no tablets or usb-networdcards to test with. One problem I can see is that you must know the hardware ID of the dongle so you make sure the right device is being ejected. Regards Mattias Benninge On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Koster, Maik <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I'd like to start a small discussion on an issue I ran into recently. The full story can be found here: http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/maikkoster/archive/2013/09/03/configmgr-2012-sp1-meets-tablets-the-case-of-the-unknown.aspx To give a short abstract. We had to deploy Windows 8 to some tablets using ConfigMgr 2012 SP1 and used a Task Sequence deployed to the "Unknown Computers" collection. The tablets we had for testing didn't have any built-in NIC, so we used a USB-To-Ethernet dongle and a docking station. First deployment(s) ran fine, but on the second device (using the same dongle, as the first device doesn't need it because it's being used wireless) it didn't start the Task Sequence as it was no longer unknown. The first device had the Mac Address assigned, so if ConfigMgr queries for devices based on MAC and UUID, it will find a resource based on the Mac (of the dongle) and not handle it as an unknown computer. We forwarded this information to Microsoft and the response was, to buy a dongle/docking station per device. Which is not only a cost-intensive solution, it will most likely also not work on the long run, as I would guess most support staff doesn't really unpack and connect a dongle/docking station per deployment, rather having a few "stations" prepared to do the deployments and then just hand out the still boxed dongle/docking station to the user. At least that's how most of our deployments are done internally. So we tried to get it working with a few dongles/docking stations only. But we didn't wanted to deploy this to a large collection like all systems and we also didn't wanted to pre-stage each single tablet. So we created a collection based on the Mac Addresses of the Dongles and docking stations we used for this initial deployment and restricted the deployment of the TS to media and PXE only. This prevented the deployment to be shown in the Software center of already deployed devices. However, all the "old" tablets were still shown in this collection and would stay in there, until this entry ages out. After some testing on how to get rid of this information as soon as possible, we figured out, that we had to update the DDR and then force a full hardware inventory, to get this done. So we advertised a package with a batch that executes two WMIC commands (show in the blog post). This has to run on a regular schedule on the computers in the collection, as the dongle has to be disconnected during execution to get rid of its Mac address. When the dongle was disconnected and the two commands have been executed, they would drop out of the collection and no longer execute the commands. While this is a usable solution, it still is a bit complex and doesn't feel "smooth". So I thought I reach out to the combined knowledge and experience of this group to get some additional input and hear about solutions others have found. As I assume, I'm not the first one who tackled this issue. And with an increasing amount of tablets even in enterprises, this will also become more common over time. Regards Maik Koster ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information of Cameron and its Operating Divisions. Any unauthorized use or disclosure is prohibited. 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