150'000 clients, so yeah, although it would work fine with a single primary, as proven by others with even more clients, it is not supported and we can't ignore that, hence two primaries.
Mostly 5 SUPs to reduce the impact on the server itself, split the load (they are MP and DP also) and if one of them should go down to have less clients impacted moving to another. Split the max of 100'000 clients to those, so 20'000 on each for all roles. NLB is not an alternative. Mostly it is a hassle because we can't use MS but 3rd party and that is a nightmare with CM07 already. What we get with multiple SUPs is good enough. Yeap, that is core only, ignoring local DPs for now. I'm looking for details on how to set the SUPs up in regards to WSUS and the (shared) DB. Especially since when I installed another WSUS using the DB on SQL, for one of those 5, the log stated it went into single user mode. Didn't continue with that yet, but that looks suspicious. Some advice where to put what and if I need to consider something special in regards to a shared WSUS DB used by several SUPs. And the first SUP is the one all others use, right? Sounds like a single point of failure again. Trying to get my head around this. -R From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys Sent: Freitag, 6. September 2013 14:39 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [mssms] CM12, Multiple SUPs questions The SUP is a role like any other and can be placed on the site server or any site system. So yes, nothing special here. What's you motivation for 5 SUPs? A remote stand-alone SUP can support up to 100,000 clients. So, for HA, you really only need 2 per site. Also, if you have 100,000+ clients (as I'm assuming that's the motivation for having multiple primary sites as well as 5 MPs per site), 10 DPs won't cut it. I guess you could just be describing the core and not any remote site systems, but just wanted to point that out. J From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland Janus Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 6:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [mssms] CM12, Multiple SUPs questions All the blogs I've read just confused me more. That's what I want to do: CAS, two primaries Each primary consists of: - Site server - Remote SQL - 5 x MP/SUP/DP The site server should be relieved from processing clients as much as possible, so: - No MP role on the site server but using 5 MP replicas (working). - No SUP rule on site server. I'd like to have WSUS installed on the site server using a DB on that remote SQL-box And all 5 SUPs use that DB and clients only contact those 5 SUPs, but not the site server. Doable? Or do I have to have SUP on the site server? But wouldn't that mean that clients also use that box AND the 5 SUPs? -R
