fyi. 300,000+ clients. sql on box.  Yes, I appreciate there are “sometimes” 
technical reasons to have sql off-box for CM12 to work better than if sql were 
on-box.  But we have yet to encounter them ourselves.  IOPS… it’s all about 
IOPS whether on or offbox, when talking about sql and configmgr being best buds.








From: Jason Wallace
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎December‎ ‎27‎, ‎2013 ‎12‎:‎40‎ ‎AM
To: [email protected]





Ryan




I would have to agree with you. I see no justification whatsoever for a remote 
SQL server although I often do get DBAs wanting it remote.




If you do maintain everything local then it is quite feasible to run something 
like Hyper-V replica on the entire VM and take snapshots on, say a 15 minute 
schedule. That gives you good, fast recoverability in the event of a failure.




In your instance then since it is you who as the application owner will need to 
write the DR documentation then you should be able to state what you need.


On 27 Dec 2013, at 00:06, "Ryan Shugart" <[email protected]> wrote:






Thanks for the replies everyone.  Yes, our SQL server is remote.  I was really 
pushing for the SQL server to be on box, this is a site that will have under 
100 clients in it so see no reason why a remote SQL is necessary but got 
overruled by the DB guys.  I’m going to reach out to Microsoft tomorrow and see 
what they have to say about this and if I can get any clearer answers.  
However, I will not run an unsupported configuration, even if it “should work.” 
 Especially for something like this, in my understanding of what an SQL always 
on config is, I’m not sure it brings any benefit to SCCM in the configuration 
we’ll be using it.

Thanks again.

Ryan

 



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 3:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [mssms] RE: using SCCM 2012R2 with SQL 2012 Always On?

 

They probably didn’t test it enough to feel comfortable supporting it.

 

You can always reach out through your TAM (Technical Account Manager) for a 
answer from the product team.

Or if your lucky, one of the MS guys will reply to this next week. ;)

 

 


Christopher Catlett

Consultant | Detroit

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Sogeti USA

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Ryan Shugart
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 5:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [mssms] RE: using SCCM 2012R2 with SQL 2012 Always On?

 


OK, follow up to this, does anyone know why always on isn’t supported for SCCM? 
 I’m asking because I’m getting a lot of push back from our DBA and application 
team to do an install in an always on configuration, I personally don’t care 
either way, so am not sure why MS just doesn’t go ahead and support this.  Is 
there something in how SCCM talks to SQL where this won’t work?

Thanks.

Ryan

 



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 12:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [mssms] RE: using SCCM 2012R2 with SQL 2012 Always On?

 

http://blogs.technet.com/b/schadinio/archive/2013/05/19/sql-server-2012-alwayson-support-for-system-center-2012-sp1-products.aspx

 

Unsupported on 2012 sp1, and I haven’t seen any documentation stating otherwise 
for R2.

 


Christopher Catlett

Consultant | Detroit

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Sogeti USA

Office 248-876-9738 |Fax 877.406.9647 

26957 Northwestern Highway, Suite 130, Southfield, MI 48033-8456

www.us.sogeti.com

 



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [mssms] RE: using SCCM 2012R2 with SQL 2012 Always On?

 

It’s unsupported to my knowledge.

 

J

 



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Ryan Shugart
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 12:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [mssms] using SCCM 2012R2 with SQL 2012 Always On?

 


Hi:


        Has anyone installed the SCCM 2012R2 database into an SQL 2012 Always 
On configuration?  I’ve done some poking around and have not found anything 
indicating this would be any different from a normal SQL setup for SCCM but 
wanted to check.


Thanks.


Ryan


 


Ryan Shugart


LAN Administrator


MiTek USA, MiTek Denver


314-851-7414


 



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