That's just plain silly. Is this classified as a bug????



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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [mssms] So basic Application question

no.

Bear in mind my deployments are to users optional as was intended.
None of this applies if it is to system. Or some of it might apply, but I do 
not do deployments to systems except our 60 core apps.
The other 1,100 apps are user optional via the software center

So for user deployments the policy comes down to the users. So for the case of 
superseded apps SCCM only sends the policy down to a USER + COMPUTER 
combination that it knows has the application.

Interestingly enough it actually does send all supersedance rules to all users, 
but those are discarded by the client and never processed.
There is a different flag on the ones where it knows the user + computer has 
the app.

Yes, incredibly complicated. This is the result of a 4 month case with MS. It 
is difficult to even explain to people.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Marcum, John <[email protected]> wrote:
> This part makes no sense to me. I'm not saying you are wrong but is this "by 
> design" because it sounds counter intuitive. " BUT only if CM12 deployed it 
> and "knows" it is installed." Shouldn't that be evaluated at run time and not 
> retrieved from some stored location? In other words if the product code is 
> present on the machine at run time it would be removed.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:31 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [mssms] So basic Application question
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> The question does not make sense to me.
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> Options:
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> Supersede an application:
> This makes the older version no longer visible in the software center.
> UNLESS you click the check box to make both version visible This will
> make it to it removes the previous version before the new version
>
> When you do that without a deployment you have just removed the
> application from the software center, nothing else
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> Then you do a deployment. You can either select to upgrade previous versions 
> or not. If you select not to then when someone gets the app it will remove 
> the previous version If you select to do it then you can set a deadline.
> With a deadline CM12 will actively upgrade previous versions, BUT only if 
> CM12 deployed it and "knows" it is installed.
>
> If you want to make sure it "knows about" all installed previous
> version regardless of who or what installed it you need to do a
> simulated deployment if the SUPERCEDED application to all SYSTEMS (not
> users)
>
> If you do that make sure of the following:
> The superseded version cannot have any dependencies The deployed version 
> cannot have and CHAINED dependencies.
>
> If either of the above 2 are true, it will force install on all systems 
> regardless of whether the previous version is installed or not.
>
> A bit complicated, read it a few times before asking questions :-)
>
> The bugs are filed or being reproduced and filed today.
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> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Matt Wilkinson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I’m curious about this too. Do you delete the existing deployment for
>> the old application or just leave it?
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>> From: Gerlak, Matthew [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: 29 April 2014 21:47
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: [mssms] So basic Application question
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>> SO if I add a supersedence to my Office  2013 package to remove
>> Office
>> 2010 package and click the uninstall check box. I just want to make
>> sure I still need a deployment for the upgraded to happen. I want to
>> make sure I don’t upgrade everyone’s office overnight
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>> Like SMS or SCCM would do that. J
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