Daniel, did you encountered any issues around imaging? or adding a HTTPS MP
internally addressed your OSD issues if you encountered any?


Thanks,
Cesar


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Belcher, Daniel (US - Hermitage) <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Hah, I need to write up some scrubbed blogs on all I've been working on,
> but can't share out right as the company I work for loves it's
> confidentiality.  Same reason I've been non-existent on these mail groups
> the past 2 years.
>
> Daniel Belcher
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> From: Todd Hemsell <[email protected]>
> Sent: ‎8/‎5/‎2014 3:55 PM
>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [mssms] Sanity check on management points and MDM
>
>   would really like to see your doc if you do not mind.
> I have a few good ones I could trade you :)
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Belcher, Daniel (US - Hermitage) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Yes, otherwise it will just be self-signed.  I just wrapped on having
>> to design something similar to this, give me some time to TechNet dive.
>> Most of this came from testing, logs, and discussions with MS employees
>> though rather than what I could research online.
>>
>>
>>
>> This blog from Adam Meltzer summarizes the selection process of MPs.
>>
>>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ameltzer/archive/2013/06/17/quick-summary-on-how-management-point-selection-works-in-flexible-formerly-native-mode-in-configuration-manager-2012.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> The gist though is either make the HTTPS site less appealing to the
>> client or let the clients fail to HTTP.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Todd Hemsell
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 3:36 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] Sanity check on management points and MDM
>>
>>
>>
>> Any documentation around this and what does "pki enabled" mean? Have a
>> cert?  "but if it’s not PKI enabled it won’t use it and move to the next
>> MP (your unsecured). "
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Belcher, Daniel (US - Hermitage) <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  It’s not exactly clean, but setting up 2 side by side MPs with one
>> secured and the other unsecured shouldn’t cause any major impact outside of
>> your clients native MP assessments.
>>
>>
>>
>> The largest headaches I’ve seen from this have come from the initial
>> client install more than anything, and that’s just a matter of pointing
>> them to the correct MP from the install string.
>>
>>
>>
>> I might be missing something here in terms of your end goal though that
>> complicates this more.  However it is right, the client will prefer the
>> HTTPS, but if it’s not PKI enabled it won’t use it and move to the next MP
>> (your unsecured).
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Todd Hemsell
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2014 3:16 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] Sanity check on management points and MDM
>>
>>
>>
>> too much complexity. I like to keep it simple and easy to maintain.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do not like to implement things where I am the only one that
>> understands them or can support them.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Marcum, John <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  Another option… You could unpublish the HTTPS one if there's a way to
>> hard code it to the CE clients so they know where to go.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://blogs.technet.com/b/michaelgriswold/archive/2014/04/22/how-to-get-clients-to-avoid-one-of-your-management-points.aspx
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Todd Hemsell
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2014 3:04 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] Sanity check on management points and MDM
>>
>>
>>
>> well, so much for that.
>>
>>
>>
>> whoever added The requirement to use https before you can manage devices
>> needs to be horsewhipped.
>>
>> If I want to manage 50 Windows CE scan guns I need to deploy a cert to
>> every system in the enterprise and force them to use https instead of http.
>> Makes sense.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Niall Brady <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> And thep prefer https over http
>>
>> Sent from my phone, please excuse any typo's as a result.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05 Aug 2014, at 20:50, "Marcum, John" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  No. MP's don't use boundaries.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [
>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Todd Hemsell
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2014 1:48 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [mssms] Sanity check on management points and MDM
>>
>>
>>
>> Right now I have 1 management point using http
>>
>>
>>
>> Can I add an https management point for mobile devices on a separate
>> server and set the subnet the mobile devices are on to use the new
>> management point without affecting the existing systems and existing
>> management point?
>>
>>
>>
>> /Todd
>>
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