Yeah, until you start receiving shipments of devices with more recent firmware, 
the work around is the best option.  The most recent batch of Venues I saw came 
with useable firmware.  I haven’t seen a batch of Surfaces in the past couple 
months.

Unfortunately, it feels like a lot of the UEFI stuff is a step backward.  While 
it adds a lot of potential new features, they forgot to make sure the basics 
still kept working.  It has been a net negative in the wild for me up until 
this point.


Nash


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 13:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [mssms] UEFI network boot extremely slow on Surface Pro 3 with 
Microsoft USB nic.

hi Nash
USB media works fine for me with the Surface and other devices but we are all 
about moving away from USB media (becuase of it's hassles) and want to use UEFI 
network boot only, but I guess that's out of the question now...

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Nash Pherson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Niall,

We’ve worked around this by using USB Boot media for the initial image of 
Surface devices and ensuring the task sequence installs required firmware 
devices.  This is also required for other recent tablet hardware that was 
rushed into production like the Dell Venues.

I hope that helps,


Nash


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] UEFI network boot extremely slow on Surface Pro 3 with 
Microsoft USB nic.

after updating windows and a few firmware updates it's now UEFI booting just 
fine,
someone else has the same issue

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/d0c8822d-beb3-4a01-9da5-5ff5070c8f98/having-issues-with-surface-pro-3-downloading-boot-image-over-pxe?forum=configmanagerdeployment

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Niall Brady 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
tried the same hardware in my home lab, still taking 3 hours, booted the device 
back into windows and it sees a firmware update for the surface3 , i'll update 
it and try again.

On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 5:03 AM, Joe Sestrich 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I think if it takes 3 hours you have something else going on, but the original 
MS USB to Ethernet adapters are only 100mb. I boot a Dell 7440 with onboard nic 
and a Surface 2 with the 1st gen USB, and the 7440 finishes in half the time.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 9:57 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] UEFI network boot extremely slow on Surface Pro 3 with 
Microsoft USB nic.

Have you tried uefi boot with the first gen nic, i think thats my issue

Sent from my phone, please excuse any typo's as a result.


On 02 Sep 2014, at 15:31, Justin Chalfant 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yes this would affect all devices. WDS would send larger chunks of the boot.wim 
at once. 3 hours is definitely longer than it should be ☺.

I would say without changing the TFTP size it took my SP1 and SP3 7 – 10 
minutes with the TFTP size set like below maybe 2 – 3 minutes.

Thanks,

Justin Chalfant
Premier Field Engineer – Configuration Manager
Public Sector
Microsoft Services

Tel : (303) 846-2701
Email:     [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

If you have any feedback about my work, please let either myself or my manager 
Ron Hill know at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 7:34 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] UEFI network boot extremely slow on Surface Pro 3 with 
Microsoft USB nic.

Wont that impact all devices that uefi/pxe boot on that dp ? This is the only 
device that is slow, 3 hours to download boot.wim over uefi

Sent from my phone, please excuse any typo's as a result.


On 02 Sep 2014, at 15:11, Justin Chalfant 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
In my experience, Surface Pro’s take longer than PC’s with built in NIC’s. Try 
this Created registry key RamDiskTFTPBlockSize under 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\SMS\DP with Hex value as 1456     should 
help a little.

Thanks,

Justin Chalfant
Premier Field Engineer – Configuration Manager
Public Sector
Microsoft Services

Tel : (303) 846-2701
Email:     [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

If you have any feedback about my work, please let either myself or my manager 
Ron Hill know at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 3:37 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] UEFI network boot extremely slow on Surface Pro 3 with 
Microsoft USB nic.

hi,
i'm testing a surface 3 with uefi network boot (cm12 r2 CU2) and the download 
of the boot wim is extremely slow, like painfully slow,

the usb nic is a microsoft nic which i got with my original surface and i'm 
using that because it seems the usb3 lenovo nics wont work with the Surface3 
for UEFI network boot.

so, is this supported or a known issue ? also is it a requirement to use 
Microsoft branded usb nics with the surface brand for UEFI network boot ? 
anyone know ?

cheers
niall.














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