Two words: Global Data

Everything they create in that child primary site in the following categories 
will now be a part of your production hierarchy:


·         Alert rules

·         Client discovery

·         Collections rules and count

·         Configuration Items metadata

·         Deployments

·         Operating system images (boot images and driver packages)

·         Package metadata

·         Program metadata

·         Site control file

·         Site security objects (security roles and security scopes)

·         Software updates metadata

·         System Resource List (site system servers)

Reference: Technical Reference for Site Communications in Configuration 
Manager<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg712990.aspx>

They are not in Kansas anymore!  (By Kansas, I mean ConfigMgr 2007 and 
earlier).  That primary site provides no kind of “security” boundary anymore.

Bruce Hethcote | Technical Training Team

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of elsalvoz
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [mssms] QA on prod


$$$  not technical but has weight. Start by finding out how much SQL license 
would be over 3 years. :)

Cesar
On Nov 13, 2014 5:32 AM, "Niall Brady" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
sure, adding an additional primary to a heirarchy with a CAS will add a greater 
probability of SQL replication problems.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:14 PM, SCCM FUN 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yep I agree,  just trying to give them a list of saying why its crazy, they 
don't accept its just crazy as a reason.. I already tried that... Ha.  Any 
technical reasons u can think of ?

--- Original Message ---

From: "Niall Brady" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: November 13, 2014 7:58 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] QA on prod
I've never heard of installing a primary simply to validate packages, that's 
crazy ! they can install a primary or a heirarchy in a TEST lab to test their 
packages and once done testing, import them into production,
that's what I'd suggest.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:36 PM, sccmfun 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I’m fighting a battle with the packaging team in regards to them joining a 
primary to our infrastructure so they can do testing on production.  We have a 
CAS, one primary and this would be the second primary.  I don’t wait to get 
into why do you have a CAS since you don’t have 100k clients, it’s more of a 
political reasoning than anything else.



I believe that all testing should occur on their own primary not part of our 
infrastructure and when everything is validated they can re-create/import the 
package/work on the prod infrastructure.   They have come back with if RBAC is 
set up correctly (which I’ve pretty much done) with the correct scoping and 
limiting what is the issue with them doing everything on a child primary.  I’m 
looking for a list of why they shouldn’t do this, what harm could it cause to 
the production environment.  If they are limited to only their QA machines they 
won’t be able to deploy their test packages for example to any other machines.



I’m looking for some points I can give them saying if you do X, this will cause 
issues/conflicts with the production environment.



Reason 1: They wouldn’t be able to do any hardware inventory testing for new 
classes they need to create/test as that can’t be scoped.  If they create a new 
class to inventory they would need to modify the configuration.mof and that 
would impact everyone.  I’m looking for reasons like that.



Reason 2: They use SCUP for a lot of custom packages, they couldn’t import the 
SCUP metadata into their primary, it would need to be imported into the CAS 
which would “touch” all machines not just their QA machines they are limited 
too.



Any other reasons anyone can think of?



Thanks








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