I’m curious to hear from those that have App-V and/or Citrix XenApp if they find themselves still deploying the Office suite and other mainline LOB applications (SAP, IBM Notes/Outlook, etc) as a local install of if App-V/XenApp has allowed them to keep the local installs to an absolute minimum.
That description of an “in-place” upgrade of Office 2010 to 2013 is what we term a rip-and-replace; an in-place upgrade would be one where an uninstall wasn’t first performed. It seems to becoming more common for us to have to follow complex rip-and-replace scripts for applications (simply applying an upgrade to IBM Notes is a real PITA). In 2015 there’s a chance we may gain access to Citrix XenApp and App-V and I’m wondering just how much its realistic to assume we can eliminate the local installs for some of these core applications. From: Phil Wilcock Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 4:38 PM To: [email protected] Hmm, be great if the user could just carry on working while their machine was being upgraded, eh Junior? J From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld Sent: 30 December 2014 18:17 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager? Yeah, it was more of a fact that it takes so long that nobody does it, it’s quicker to blast the machine and put a new image down. //A From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hanley, Kevin Sent: den 30 december 2014 18:56 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager? We did an in-place upgrade of Office 2010 to Office 2013 using SCCM: 1. Communicate/Schedule with users for groups of 50-100 per night (remove anyone who opts out from collection) a. Instruct laptop users to leave machines in office powered on 2. Scheduled installs for 8pm (to avoid anyone who is working late and to ensure machines have not gone to sleep) 3. Cancelled deployments if hadn’t kicked off by 4am (to avoid bad morning for end user and help desk) 4. Cached files for Office 2013 (and also Visio and Project 2013 as necessary) 5. Deployed front-end that gave user a 5 min countdown: a. Defer for 60 mins b. Defer for 10 mins c. Run Now d. Cancel and Reschedule for later 6. If User chooses to Run Now (or no user present) a. Reboot b. Run Office 2010 uninstall c. Reboot d. Run Office 2013 install e. Reboot 7. Send log file from client along the way to a network share to allow monitoring of status (cancelled/deferred/uninstallphase/installphase/errors) We used hklm\system\setup\cmdline keys to run the uninstall/install similar to a Windows Update or Mini-Setup before the user can login (to avoid them relaunching Office apps and interfering with install: https://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/windows/en-US/b942a34d-c4a7-489c-bb01-45dd65fa9b20/setuptype-and-cmdline-at-hkeylocalmachinesystemsetup From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager? precache office then install. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Andreas Hammarskjöld <[email protected]> wrote: So who in here has ever done an in place upgrade of Office? Rebuilt of image is always quicker…? Or am I wrong? //A From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens Sent: den 29 december 2014 22:33 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager? Downside of beta’s, people already make up their mind. Even if it’s just sentiment, you don’t switch people over from one way of doing things to another overnight. The quickest thing our industry embraced was server virtualization and even that took multiple releases, and multiple years before it became the mainstream way of implementing servers in production. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:56 PM To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager? People tend to forget that Windows 10 is actually still beta and not even close to being finished. From: Marable, Mike Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:47 PM To: SMS “Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment…” I’m sorry but I’d have to beg to differ. So far I have had little luck with using the in-place upgrade that Microsoft is pushing in the real world. To be honest I’m finding it just as problematic as it was in prior versions of Windows. We may be “old school” on this but when the time comes to migrate from Windows 7 to Windows 10, as it stands right now we’re going to do it the same way we went from XP to Windows 7; using wipe and load task sequences run from SCCM. I would love for all of this to just work and for us to be able to use it. But in healthcare change happens very slowly. Everything has to have a proven track record before we will let patient safety rely on it. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:34 PM To: SMS Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager? Or… just roll out the pieces Kim believes are missing. Intune is a full Azure service now which means any new feature can be rolled out anytime and can take advantage of Azure power. Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment, btw, so take those off the list. From: Ed Aldrich Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:30 PM To: SMS I’m betting that the Redmond crowd will be dissecting THAT post for some time trying to figure out how to respond to it in some fashion, somewhere!!! Wow! Ed Aldrich | Solutions Engineer 1E | Empowering Efficient IT Mobile: (401) 924-2293 [email protected] | www.1e.com Description: Description: cid:[email protected] Ent Cli Mgmt (2003-2014) Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:40 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: [mssms] [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to replace Configuration Manager? Hi All, I’ve expressed these views a couple of times already to colleague mvp’s and people interested in hearing my opinion. It tends to be fragmented in talks though, so I decided to put my thoughts into writing, and dedicate a blog post to it. 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