Now that sounds like whining to me ;-) Happy new year! ☺

Great reply Kim, think that was the most detailed one I have found so far on 
how this in place upgrade in ConfigMgr is supposed to work/not.

//A

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens
Sent: den 31 december 2014 11:37
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

Yes, please do report. I was one of those unlucky souls and did forward the 
logs that were requested. (I was aked to zip up the entire Panther folder)

I already provided my feedback as to where I believe the process from within 
SCCM for upgrades is flawed, but will happily do so again.
At a certain point in the tasksequence we hand things over to the Windows setup 
process. If anything goes wrong there, as is the case right now, the 
tasksequence doesn’t come back into play.
Specifically for upgrades, that is troublesome, as those will most likely 
happen “in the field”. And there is no way to know whether the “process” 
succeeded, meaning applications were retained or not.
Windows setup, afaik, reports success when the OS upgrade succeeded, I haven’t 
received any feedback that it could guarantee all apps were successfully 
retained as well.

If there’s no way to validate that other than logging into the system and 
check, than you’ll need a proven track record of well over 95% before I at 
least buy into that.
Barring that, Windows setup either needs to report that some applications were 
not retained, or needs a rollback process that rolls back to the previous OS, 
including all the apps on that previous OS.

I do believe upgrades are the future given Microsoft’s increased release cycle. 
However, given the lack of control Microsoft has over it’s eco-system, I’d be 
blown away if they’d pull this off in a single release.
And it’ll probably take at least 2 releases to just convince the non-believers.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:50 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

A majority did move to x64 with Windows 7.  So they will have an in-place 
upgrade option.

For those trying out the in-place upgrade with Windows 10 Preview builds, be 
sure you submit feedback on any issues you encounter so that we can continue to 
improve the process.  If you just complain about it and don’t do anything, 
well, I’d call that whining ☺

Thanks,
-Michael

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:52 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

You can’t “in-place” an OS architecture switch.

Since most Win7 installs are x86, that means many orgs will have to bare-metal 
just to switch to x64 Win10.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 15:56
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

People tend to forget that Windows 10 is actually still beta and not even close 
to being finished.

From: Marable, Mike<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎47‎ ‎PM
To: SMS<mailto:[email protected]>

“Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment…”

I’m sorry but I’d have to beg to differ.  So far I have had little luck with 
using the in-place upgrade that Microsoft is pushing in the real world.  To be 
honest I’m finding it just as problematic as it was in prior versions of 
Windows.  We may be “old school” on this but when the time comes to migrate 
from Windows 7 to Windows 10, as it stands right now we’re going to do it the 
same way we went from XP to Windows 7; using wipe and load task sequences run 
from SCCM.

I would love for all of this to just work and for us to be able to use it.  But 
in healthcare change happens very slowly.  Everything has to have a proven 
track record before we will let patient safety rely on it.



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:34 PM
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

Or… just roll out the pieces Kim believes are missing. Intune is a full Azure 
service now which means any new feature can be rolled out anytime and can take 
advantage of Azure power.  Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment, 
btw, so take those off the list.



From: Ed Aldrich<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎30‎ ‎PM
To: SMS<mailto:[email protected]>

I’m betting that the Redmond crowd will be dissecting THAT post for some time 
trying to figure out how to respond to it in some fashion, somewhere!!!

Wow!

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:40 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: [mssms] [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to replace 
Configuration Manager?

Hi All,

I’ve expressed these views a couple of times already to colleague mvp’s and 
people interested in hearing my opinion.
It tends to be fragmented in talks though, so I decided to put my thoughts into 
writing, and dedicate a blog post to it.
So this is a shameless plug for that blogpost:
http://bit.ly/1vn7hGu

Now, discuss ☺


Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,

Kim Oppalfens | Managing Consultant & MVP| OSCC
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