Hi folks,

I did a deep dive into the frequency of update of HINV in the collection 
columns recently.  While I never proved a refresh for the summarization, it was 
long enough that it made using those HINV dates not useful within about a week.

I did discover that the Policy Request column is realtime.  I tried to create a 
collection query that would show me Policy Request dates within x days so I 
could base actions such as software update only on super fresh clients.  
However, I have not yet found how to expose the Policy Request date in the 
collection column based on the WMI classes that are available in a collection 
query.

Ivan Lindenfeld

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 4:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [mssms] Summarization - Collection in console

Err ok but you do know that the console has more overhead to it than running 
reports.  Plus you now have to give each user the console and therefore anytime 
you install a CU or R or SP release you will need to update every user.

The summarizing task are not documents anywhere (to my knowledge). Since I 
always want my users to see the most current data, I never point them to the 
console and only point them to the reports, plus I'm still a firm believe that 
you need to keep everyone out of the console (even with RBA enabled)




From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sccmfun
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 1:47 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Summarization - Collection in console

We have some users who don't have access to the reports, rbac'ed them so all 
they have is console access.  Chances are I'm going to leave it the way it is, 
but for my own knowledge would of liked to know how to kick it off and not wait 
to summarize.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 11:41 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Summarization - Collection in console

I'm unclear as to why you wouldn't use reports. Report will ALWAYS be 100% 
update date, the console will be up to 24 hours out of date as the data is 
summarized, in order to allow the console to be  fast.

IMO you should NEVER use the console for anything except for creating 
collection and deploying software. It is just not as efficient as the reports.



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 10:37 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Summarization - Collection in console

Because it's not the same thing and having data in that view but not being 
accurate would make it useless.

I have the same question with clients showing 29.12. as scan date, but there is 
inventory from today (31th), hence the question, where is that data coming from 
and what would update it?

-R


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Mittwoch, 31. Dezember 2014 15:51
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Summarization - Collection in console

Why wouldn't you use a report for this? What exactly are you trying to do?

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sccmfun
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 9:17 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] Summarization - Collection in console

Does anyone know how to force summarization so you can see up-to-date info such 
as HW inventory scan when looking at machines in a collection.

If you look at a collection of machines and select the different columns, one 
of them being hardware inventory, the data is outdated.  I know this view is 
based off summarization, but don't know what the summarization schedule is or 
how to kick it off manually.  I searched for the stored proc, but no luck.  I'm 
also confused as the summarization for the policy requests column seems to 
update more frequently, but doesn't look like the hardware or other info is 
updated as quick.  I would assume it's one stored proc that updates everything, 
but then wouldn't all columns update and not just the policy request?

Any info on this is appreciated.

Happy New Year!






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